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Post subject: Allah does not need any helper
Hello All
On FM you will see a member named Danish promoting some unfounded concepts, for example, he believes the Author of the Quran is nothing but a bunch of wise men lived long time ago, here is another example of his confusion that he promotes on an Islamic web site:
Danish wrote:
Hello Ahmed,
I guess I didn't make myself clear or you didn't catch my point. Let me put it in another perspective: Creating angels as body guards or helpers, undermines Allah's attributable strengths, does it not?
Hi Danish
Look bro you are insisting to ask the same silly question, what makes me wonder that you say you follow the Quran while you oppose what it says, and if you honestly do then you should see the clear answer in there, but let me say this first, the Malaika are called Malaika, it is you who is calling them helpers, possibly to falsely give the implication that their Creator needs their help, Allah clearly told us that He does not get tired therefore He does need helpers:
And certainly We created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six periods and there touched Us not any fatigue. [The Quran ; 50:38]
وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ وَمَا مَسَّنَا مِن لُّغُوبٍ (38)
From the above it will be ridiculous to suggest that the angels are there to help Allah, why He created them, again, I don't know and no one knows EXCEPT Allah, I can suggest many conjectures but again I will avoid doing as such because simply Allah told me two times in the Quran that '???????????¬He does what He wants
Doer (without let) of all that He intends. [The Quran ; 85:16]
فَعَّالٌ لِّمَا يُرِيدُ (16)
The above was repeated in 11:107
As you can see the verb "to do" was used in a surety format فَعَّالٌ, the verb '???????????¬to be itself was stated without any change in another 2 locations to tell us again and again that Allah does what he wants:
Surely Allah will cause those who believe and do good deeds to enter gardens beneath which rivers flow, surely Allah does what He pleases. [The Quran ; 85:14]
إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُدْخِلُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي مِن تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَفْعَلُ مَا يُرِيدُ (14)
The above was repeated in 2:253
Therefore mate, Allah has answered your silly question 4 times THAT HE DOES WHAT HE WANTS, so why the hell you think that you are cornering us or something but that silly question?, your insistence on the question only indicates your lack of knowledge about your God, that's all bro, either face it and change it or live with it but please don't give us too much headache if you live with it
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