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Hadith & Sunnah - Discussion with a hadither on youtube

- Sat 04 Feb, 2012 10:15 pm
Post subject: Discussion with a hadither on youtube
Enlightened:


اتعجبك هذه الاحاديث؟
بَاب مُبَاشَرَةِ الْحَائِضِ
295 حَدَّثَنَا قَبِيصَةُ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ عَنْ مَنْصُورٍ عَنْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ الْأَسْوَدِ عَنْ عَائِشَةَ قَالَتْ كُنْتُ أَغْتَسِلُ أَنَا وَالنَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ مِنْ إِنَاءٍ وَاحِدٍ كِلَانَا جُنُبٌ وَكَانَ يَأْمُرُنِي فَأَتَّزِرُ فَيُبَاشِرُنِي وَأَنَا حَائِضٌ وَكَانَ يُخْرِجُ رَأْسَهُ إِلَيَّ وَهُوَ مُعْتَكِفٌ فَأَغْسِلُهُ وَأَنَا حَائِضٌ


297 حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو النُّعْمَانِ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَاحِدِ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا الشَّيْبَانِيُّ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ شَدَّادٍ قَالَ سَمِعْتُ مَيْمُونَةَ تَقُولُ كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ إِذَا أَرَادَ أَنْ يُبَاشِرَ امْرَأَةً مِنْ نِسَائِهِ أَمَرَهَا فَاتَّزَرَتْ وَهِيَ حَائِضٌ وَرَوَاهُ سُفْيَانُ عَنْ الشَّيْبَانِيِّ

1289 وَحَدَّثَنِي عَنْ مَالِك عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ دِينَارٍ أَنَّهُ قَالَ جَاءَ رَجُلٌ إِلَى عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ وَأَنَا مَعَهُ عِنْدَ دَارِ الْقَضَاءِ يَسْأَلُهُ عَنْ رَضَاعَةِ الْكَبِيرِ فَقَالَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ جَاءَ رَجُلٌ إِلَى عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ فَقَالَ إِنِّي كَانَتْ لِي وَلِيدَةٌ وَكُنْتُ أَطَؤُهَا فَعَمَدَتْ امْرَأَتِي إِلَيْهَا فَأَرْضَعَتْهَا فَدَخَلْتُ عَلَيْهَا فَقَالَتْ دُونَكَ فَقَدْ وَاللَّهِ أَرْضَعْتُهَا فَقَالَ عُمَرُ أَوْجِعْهَا وَأْتِ جَارِيَتَكَ فَإِنَّمَا الرَّضَاعَةُ رَضَاعَةُ الصَّغِيرِ


Orgolioitalia1:

I think, for you it is an taboo to talk about but the message of Islam is for human being and there are almost more women than men, so Islam provide answer to everything.
I do not anything wrong in them....


Enlightened:

Your answer proves that you didn't read the hadiths I sent you or that you don't understand Arabic well enough.

The first hadith says that the prophet had sex with his wives when they were menstruating (period) which contradicts Quran. It also says that in order to have sex with his wives, they had to cover their bottom (from waist to knees, ie: vagina) so that he could have sex with the top part (foreplay). Istaghfirrullah al aliy al adeem min hada al kalam!

The second hadith says the same thing that the prophet ordered his wives to cover their bottom part so that he could have sex with them whilst they were on their period.

The third one says that a married man had a woman slave whom he slept with! Then his wife made the slave drink her breast milk so that he could no longer have sex with her (tuhrim). Then he was angry and went to Omar who told him that 'rida'at al kabir la tuhrim' and Omar ordered him to take back the slave and allowed him to sleep with her!

Read those hadiths again كَانَ يَأْمُرُنِي فَأَتَّزِرُ فَيُبَاشِرُنِي

Orgolioitalia1:


نِسَاؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌ لَّكُمْ فَأْتُوا حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّىٰ شِئْتُمْ وَقَدِّمُوا لِأَنفُسِكُمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّكُم مُّلَاقُوهُ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
cool

Enlightened:

وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْمَحِيضِ ۖ قُلْ هُوَ أَذًى فَاعْتَزِلُوا النِّسَاءَ فِي الْمَحِيضِ ۖ وَلَا تَقْرَبُوهُنَّ حَتَّىٰ يَطْهُرْنَ ۖ فَإِذَا تَطَهَّرْنَ فَأْتُوهُنَّ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَمَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ التَّوَّابِينَ وَيُحِبُّ الْمُتَطَهِّرِينَ


ارأيت كي يكذب البخاري و يحل ما حرمه الله؟ اتق الله يا أخي




He still hasn't answered me back...
- Sat 04 Feb, 2012 11:38 pm
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Dear brother

I honestly appreciate your work, I wished we knew each other ages ago, please keep up the good work. May Allah bless you with your best deed in the hereafter inshaallah

Salam
- Sat 04 Feb, 2012 11:49 pm
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Inchaallah brother, we need to bring the fight on their grounds with of course reason and intellect. Soon some might realise their mistakes and prejudice. I'm taking Dr. Ahmed Subhy Mansour as a good example of how we should debate with these people.

salam
- Sun 05 Feb, 2012 12:12 am
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Origolioitalia1:

orgolioitalia1

Re: اتعجبك هذه الاحاديث؟
The verse is telling us man do not make a Actual Sexual relation when she has Menstruation >>>>you are thinking about something else it is not Allah swt GIVEN Haram (but to avoid it).Do you think Allah swt marked Haram do you see* حرمه الله*
why not Use wisdom when you read Quran ul hakim

and what about.

نِسَاؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌ لَّكُمْ فَأْتُوا حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّىٰ شِئْتُمْ وَقَدِّمُوا لِأَنفُسِكُمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّكُم مُّلَاقُوهُ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
what is the Quran telling us in the verse 2:223
نساؤكم حرث لكم فأتوا حرثكم أنى شئتم...


ولا تقولوا لما تصف ألسنتكم الكذب هذا حلال وهذا حرام لتفتروا على اللـه الكذب إن الذين يفترون على اللـه الكذب لا يفلحون16:116
قل إن الذين يفترون على اللـه الكذب لا يفلحون10:69


اتق الله يا أخي هل ترى من اخترع كذبة؟





After this I sent him a message telling him that he is distorting the words of Allah and lying to himself. Then I blocked him, Allah has made a barrier between him and this person...

Allah says:

52. And (remember) the Day He will say:"Call those (so-called) partners of Mine whom you pretended." Then they will cry unto them, but they will not answer them, and We shall put Maubiqa (a barrier, or enmity, or destruction, or a valley in Hell) between them.

- Sun 05 Feb, 2012 3:29 am
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Response to Origolioitalia1 the denouncer of Quranic commandments regarding menstruating women.


Link

- Sun 05 Feb, 2012 1:21 pm
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Lol, here's his rebuttle!


Link

- Sun 05 Feb, 2012 7:34 pm
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