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The God, His Messengers & Prohpets - NAMES/ATTRIBUTES of GOD
- Thu 18 Jan, 2007 12:08 am
Post subject: NAMES/ATTRIBUTES of GOD
In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful

Name/Transliteration
Translation
Some selected relevant verses from the Qur'an


ALL�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??H
All�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢h
( 1:1 )( 3:18 )( 5:109 )( 6:124 )( 7:180 )( 8:40 )( 16:91 )( 20:8 )( 57:5 )( 65:3 )( 74:56 )( 85:20 )

AR-RAHM�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??N
The Most Compassionate, The Beneficent, The Gracious
( 1:3 )( 17:110 )( 19:58 )( 21:112 )( 27:30 )( 36:52 )( 50:33 )( 55:1 )( 59:22 )( 78:38 )

AR-RAH�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½M
The Merciful
( 2:163 )( 3:31 )( 4:100 )( 5:3 )( 5:98 )( 11:41 )( 12:53 )( 12:64 )( 26:9 )( 30:5( 36:58 )

AL-MALIK
The King
( 20:114 )( 23:116 )( 59:23 )( 62:1 )( 114:2 )

AL-QUDD�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºS
The Most Holy
( 59:23 ) ( 62:1 )

AS-SAL�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??M
The All-Peaceful, The Bestower of peace
( 59:23 )

AL-MU'MIN
The Granter of security
( 59:23 )

AL-MUHAYMIN
The Protector
( 59:23 )

AL-'AZ�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½Z
The Mighty
( 3:6 ) ( 4:158 ) ( 9:40 ) ( 9:71 ) ( 48:7 ) ( 59:23 ) ( 61:1 )

AL-JABB�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??R
The Compeller
( 59:23 )

AL-MUTAKABBIR
Supreme in Greatness, The Majestic
( 59:23 )

AL-KH�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??LIQ
The Creator
( 6:102 ) ( 13:16 ) ( 39:62 )( 40:62 )( 59:24 )

AL-B�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??RI'
The Maker
( 59:24 )

AL-MUSAWWIR
The Bestower of form, The Shaper
( 59:24 )

AL-GAFF�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??R
The Forgiver
( 20:82 )( 38:66 )( 39:5 )( 40:42 )( 71:10 )

AL-QAHH�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??R
The Subduer
( 13:16 )( 14:48 )( 38:65 )( 39:4 )( 40:16 )

AL-WAHH�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??B
The Bestower
( 3:8 )( 38:9 )( 38:35 )

AR-RAZZ�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??Q
The Provider
( 51:58 )

AL-FATT�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??H
The Opener, The Judge
( 34:26 )

AL-'AL�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½M
The All-Knowing
( 2:158 )( 3:92 )( 4:35 )( 24:41 )( 33:40 ) ( 35:38 )( 57:6 )

AL-Q�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??BID
The Withholder
( 2:245 )

AL-B�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??SIT
The Expander
( 2:245 )

AL-KH�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??FID
The Abaser

AR-R�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??FI'
The Exalter

AL-MU'IZZ
The Bestower of honour

( 3:26 )

AL-MUDHILL
The Humiliator
( 3:26 )

AS-SAM�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½'
The All-Hearing
( 2:127 ) ( 2:137 ) ( 2:256 ) ( 8:17 ) ( 49:1 )

AL-BAS�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½R
The All-Seeing
( 4:58 ) ( 17:1 ) ( 42:11 ) ( 42:27 ) ( 57:4 ) ( 67:19 )

AL-HAKAM
The Judge
( 22:69 )

AL-'ADL
The Just, The Equitable

AL-LAT�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½F
The Gentle, The Knower of subtleties

( 6:103 ) ( 22:63 ) ( 31:16 ) ( 33:34 ) ( 67:14 )

AL-KHAB�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½R
The All-Aware
( 6:18 ) ( 17:30 ) ( 49:13 ) ( 59:18 ) ( 63:11 )

AL-HAL�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½M
The Forbearing
( 2:225 ) ( 2:235 ) ( 17:44 ) ( 22:59 ) ( 35:41 )

AL-'AZ�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½M
The Incomparably Great
( 2:255 ) ( 42:4 ) ( 56:96 )

AL-GAF�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºR
The Forgiving
( 2:173 ) ( 8:69 ) ( 16:110 ) ( 41:32 ) ( 60:7 )

ASH-SHAK�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºR
The Appreciative
( 35:30 ) ( 35:34 ) ( 42:23 ) ( 64:17 )

AL-'ALIYY
The Most High
( 2:255 ) ( 4:34 ) ( 31:30 ) ( 42:4 ) ( 42:51 )

AL-KAB�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½R
The Most Great
( 13:9 ) ( 22:62 ) ( 31:30 ) ( 34:23 ) ( 40:12 )

AL-HAF�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½Z
The Preserver
( 11:57 ) ( 34:21 ) ( 42:6 )

AL-MUGH�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½TH
The Sustainer

AL-HAS�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½B
The Reckoner

( 4:6 ) ( 4:86 ) ( 33:39 )

AL-JAL�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½L
The Majestic, The Revered, The Sublime

AL-KAR�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½M
The Generous

( 27:40 ) ( 82:6 )

AR-RAQ�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½B
The Watchful
( 4:1 ) ( 5:117 )

AL-MUJ�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½B
The Responsive
( 11:61 )

AL-W�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??SI'
The All-Encompassing, The All-Embracing
( 2:115 ) ( 2:261 ) ( 2:268 ) ( 3:73 ) ( 5:54 )

AL-HAK�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½M
The Wise
( 2:129 ) ( 2:260 ) ( 31:27 ) ( 46:2 ) ( 57:1 ) ( 66:2 )

AL-WAD�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºD
The Loving One
( 11:90 ) ( 85:14 )

AL-MAJ�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½D
The Most Glorious
( 11:73 )

AL-B�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??'ITH
The Resurrector
( 22:7 )

ASH-SHAH�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½D
The Witness
( 4:79 )( 4:166 )( 22:17 )( 41:53 )( 48:28 )

AL-HAQQ
The Truth
( 6:62 )( 22:6 )( 23:116 )( 31:30 )

AL-WAK�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½L
The Ultimate Trustee, The Disposer of Affairs
( 3:173 ) ( 4:171 ) ( 28:28 ) ( 33:3 ) ( 73:9 )

AL-QAWIYY
The Most Strong
( 22:40 )( 22:74 )( 42:19 )( 57:25 )( 58:21 )

AL-MAT�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½N
The Firm One, The Authoritative
( 51:58 )

AL-WALIYY
The Protector
( 3:68 ) ( 4:45 ) ( 7:196 ) ( 42:28 ) ( 45:19 )

AL-HAM�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½D
The All-Praised, The Praiseworthy
( 14:1 ) ( 14:8 ) ( 31:12 ) ( 31:26 ) ( 41:42 )

AL-MUHS�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½
The Reckoner

AL-MUBDI'
The Originator
( 10:4 )( 10:34 )( 27:64 )( 29:19 )( 85:13 )

AL-MU'�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½D
The Restorer to life
( 10:4 )( 10:34 )( 27:64 )( 29:19 )( 85:13 )

AL-MUHY�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½
The Giver of life
( 3:156 ) ( 7:158 ) ( 15:23 )( 30:50 )( 57:2 )

AL-MUM�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½T
The Causer of death
( 3:156 ) ( 7:158 ) ( 15:23 ) ( 57:2 )

AL-HAYY
The Ever-Living
( 2:255 )( 3:2 )( 20:111 )( 25:58 )( 40:65 )

AL-QAYY�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºM
The Self-Existing by Whom all subsist
( 2:255 ) ( 3:2 ) ( 20:111 )

AL-W�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??JID
The Self-Sufficient, The All-Perceiving

AL-M�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??JID
The Glorified

AL-W�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??HID
The One

( 2:163 ) ( 5:73 ) ( 9:31 ) ( 18:110 ) ( 37:4 )

AS-SAMAD
The Eternally Besought
( 112:2 )

AL-Q�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??DIR
The Omnipotent, The Able
( 6:65 ) ( 36:81 ) ( 46:33 ) ( 75:40 ) ( 86:8 )

AL-MUQTADIR
The Powerful
( 18:45 ) ( 54:42 ) ( 54:55 )

AL-MUQADDIM
The Expediter

AL- MU'AKHKHIR
The Delayer

( 71:4 )

AL-AWWAL
The First
( 57:3 )

AL-�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??KHIR
The Last
( 57:3 )

AZ-Z�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??HIR
The Manifest
( 57:3 )

AL-B�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??TIN
The Hidden
( 57:3 )

AL-W�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??L�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½
The Governor, The Protector

AL-MUTA'�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??L�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½
The Most Exalted

( 13:9 )

AL-BARR
The Benign, The Source of All-Goodness
( 52:28 )

AT-TAWW�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??B
The Granter and Accepter of repentence
( 2:37 ) ( 2:128 ) ( 4:64 ) ( 49:12 ) ( 110:3 )

AL- MUNTAQIM
The Lord of Retribution, The Avenger
( 32:22 ) ( 43:41 ) ( 44:16 )

AL-'AFUWW
The Pardoner
( 4:99 ) ( 4:149 ) ( 22:60 )

AR-RA'�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºF
The Most Kind, The Clement
( 3:30 ) ( 9:117 ) ( 57:9 ) ( 59:10 )

M�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??LIK-UL-MULK
Owner of the Kingdom
( 3:26 )

DHUL JAL�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??L WAL IKR�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??M
Possessor of Majesty and Honour
( 55:27 ) ( 55:78 )

AL-MUQSIT
The Just, The Equitable
( 3:18 )

AL-J�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??ME'
The Gatherer
( 3:9 )

AL-GHANIYY
The All-Sufficient
( 2:263 ) ( 3:97 ) ( 39:7 ) ( 47:38 ) ( 57:24 )

AL-MUGHN�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½
The Enricher
( 9:28 )

AL-M�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??NI'
The Preventer of harm

AD-D�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??RR
The Afflicter

AN-N�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??FI'
The Benefiter

AN-N�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºR
The Light

( 24:35 )

AL-H�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??D�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½
The Guide
( 25:31 )

AL-BAD�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½'
The Originator
( 2:117 ) ( 6:101 )

AL-B�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??Q�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½
The Everlasting
( 55:27 )

AL-W�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??RITH
The Ultimate Inheritor
( 15:23 )

AR-RASH�???????�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�½D
The Guide

AS-SAB�???????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�ºR
The Patient One

Credits: Iqra Islamic Publications

source: http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/99names.htm

taken with thanks! ( -:

# kindly point out any mistakes in linking of names/attributes with the verses!
- Thu 18 Jan, 2007 7:45 am
Post subject:
Good morning bro

I was watching an egyptian program yesterday and I was shocked to find out that Al Azhar has removed 21 names of the 99 because they claim there is no support in Quran and Sunnah, on the other hand they replaced the 21 names by other names "mostely from Hadith"

I say this is tital crap,

Their secisoon was based on a research by an Arab Muslim not from Egypt, the researcher claimed that the Saudi didn't oppose him eaither

what do you think man?

I will try to get the film and post it in here

what a coincidence bro

Cheers
- Thu 18 Jan, 2007 8:14 am
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Good morning Brother,

WTF joke of the century ?

As far as Quran is concerned it will remain intact and no bloody human has been able to change it in past and will not be able to change it in the future.

Im not astonished and in a way this crap will do good, it will awake fellow muslims and make them ponder, who has been blindly following whatever is being preached to them.

And the people who play with words of God, will burn in hell Wink

w'salam
- Thu 18 Jan, 2007 5:31 pm
Post subject:
Initially i myself thought all the 99 names were mentioned in the Quran then later i realised that few are from the hadith also.

Well thats one i was confused should i consider the rest names which are left out. But later i thought to myself, i have to do my own research a deep one because i we cant just throw something off unless we find any authenticity of leaving it out.

Well since we are doing it for the sake of Allaah.
- Thu 18 Jan, 2007 6:22 pm
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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
Initially i myself thought all the 99 names were mentioned in the Quran then later i realised that few are from the hadith also.

Well thats one i was confused should i consider the rest names which are left out. But later i thought to myself, i have to do my own research a deep one because i we cant just throw something off unless we find any authenticity of leaving it out.

Well since we are doing it for the sake of Allaah.



Salam bro

yah man, we should do our own researches, I actually discovered a few fallacies regarding that arab shiekh who propsed this and irronically his proposal is accepted by Azhar but still rejected by many Muslims

I will post the movies of that program in here, it is in Arabic though, later on I may try to trnalalte the highlights of it

Salam
- Fri 19 Jan, 2007 9:03 pm
Post subject:
life wrote:
Good morning Brother,

WTF joke of the century ?

As far as Quran is concerned it will remain intact and no bloody human has been able to change it in past and will not be able to change it in the future.

Im not astonished and in a way this crap will do good, it will awake fellow muslims and make them ponder, who has been blindly following whatever is being preached to them.

And the people who play with words of God, will burn in hell Wink

w'salam


Here it is mate

I will try to translate it later, you will also hear the new song using the new names, the host who is a very popular Egyptian host is also shocked, the researcher produced a letter from Azhar confirming their approval, it is shocking mate, there are new names they added which the Quran never mentioned like Satteer, Hayyay etc�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¦, they removed about 21 names and added new ones instead and even made a new song

The motivation for their crime is simple the corrupt hadith that says sort of:

The prophet said : there are 99 names to Allah, whoever allocates them will head to the Garden

I.e. a secured ticket to the Garden, i.e. those who can't read must miss out on this opportunity to secure the Garden, what a load of non sense man

Look what the hadith is doing to the Muslims that they say we are carrying high degrees in religion

Yeh right, the religion they bloody made for themselves according to their own low desires and according to their clear cut Shirk



BTW, I got the movie from an anti Islam web site (Arabic) that use it to attack the Muslims by exposing their confusion

I seek refuge by Allah

Salam
- Sun 21 Jan, 2007 5:23 am
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I wanna know does Allaah have 99 names, yes or no and Allaah knows the best, sometime i feel too much knowledge is also killing. Wink
- Sun 21 Jan, 2007 6:33 am
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Salam bro

The 99 names of Allah is coming from the hadith, there is no such thing in the Quran

Salam
- Sun 21 Jan, 2007 8:45 am
Post subject:
Quote:
Salam bro

The 99 names of Allah is coming from the hadith, there is no such thing in the Quran


Oooooo! really!

Salam BB,

Im surprised very surprised and dont know how to question this, can you be kind to tell what its all about and how these got associated with quran, cos i have seen some copies of quran with these names printed on back pages.
- Wed 31 Jan, 2007 12:48 am
Post subject:
Quote:
ahmedbahgat wrote:
I was watching an egyptian program yesterday and I was shocked to find out that Al Azhar has removed 21 names of the 99 because they claim there is no support in Quran and Sunnah, on the other hand they replaced the 21 names by other names "mostely from Hadith"

I say this is tital crap,

Their secisoon was based on a research by an Arab Muslim not from Egypt, the researcher claimed that the Saudi didn't oppose him eaither

what do you think man?


# i dont think the attributes/names of god have to be restricted to (those found in) the quran....nor should they be limited to the arabic language!

what do u think? (-:
- Wed 31 Jan, 2007 1:56 am
Post subject: Re:
^ My point would be, without the innate nature of God present in us we wouldnt have recognised Allaah, so who gave us the reasoning that there is some Supreme Power the answer would be Allaah.

If the reasoning was provided by Allaah, to a human being and the ilm or the knowledge again was given by Allaah to us.

I conclude without Allaah giving us all this reasoning we wouldnt know about the attributes of God, I personally feel since Quran is a book which preaches Islam(If i am wrong for these particular words do correct me) and the foundation stands in beleving one true God.

I would prefer to stick to the attributes of God present in the Quran, since human is fallible and might exceed to such limits which might not be attributes of God.

My 2 cents.
- Wed 31 Jan, 2007 6:01 am
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Quote:
slaveofallaah wrote:
^ My point would be, without the innate nature of God present in us we wouldnt have recognised Allaah, so who gave us the reasoning that there is some Supreme Power the answer would be Allaah.

If the reasoning was provided by Allaah, to a human being and the ilm or the knowledge again was given by Allaah to us.

I conclude without Allaah giving us all this reasoning we wouldnt know about the attributes of God, I personally feel since Quran is a book which preaches Islam(If i am wrong for these particular words do correct me) and the foundation stands in beleving one true God.


# that's an interesting way of putting it bro...but i m not sure i understand what u mean by innate nature of god being present in us! (-:

Quote:
I would prefer to stick to the attributes of God present in the Quran, since human is fallible and might exceed to such limits which might not be attributes of God.


# i appreciate the point u make here....but if i raise my hands and call out to god as "the giver of bread" or "the destroyer of evil", am i attributing to it words i should not?
- Fri 06 Apr, 2007 5:16 am
Post subject: NAMES/ATTRIBUTES of GOD - Allah, God, Yahwa
After going through the above postings it appears that each country has

its own list of 99 names.

But, what I would sincerely like to know from some one who knows,

like may be brother Ahmed Bahgat,

a) Whether the name "JEHOVAHA" occurs, or is part of,

one of the 99 names/attributes of Allah in the Koran?

b) If the Koran is a confirmation of the previous Scriptures,

are/were those Scriptures (OT) from the same god

as Allah?

Please also reply to my comments posted under THE 99 NAMES OF ALLAH

in this same Forum.
- Fri 06 Apr, 2007 9:48 am
Post subject: Re: NAMES/ATTRIBUTES of GOD - Allah, God, Yahwa
Hindi wrote:
After going through the above postings it appears that each country has

its own list of 99 names.



Salam bro

I donlt believe that there is a limited number on how many names Allah have, this is just rediculous


Hindi wrote:
But, what I would sincerely like to know from some one who knows,

like may be brother Ahmed Bahgat,

a) Whether the name "JEHOVAHA" occurs, or is part of,

one of the 99 names/attributes of Allah in the Koran?



The words Hoa Allah in arbic is actullay Elohim , as far as I remember from a book by thelate Ahmed Dedaat, (I have to confirm later on)

Hindi wrote:
b) If the Koran is a confirmation of the previous Scriptures,


That is what Allah said in the Quran many times


Hindi wrote:
are/were those Scriptures (OT) from the same god

as Allah?



all these scriptures are from Allah as He told us in the Quran, there is only One God Whe sent us scriptures


Hindi wrote:
Please also reply to my comments posted under THE 99 NAMES OF ALLAH

in this same Forum.


I will look for it but can you please direct me to it with a url if you can?


Salam
- Mon 09 Apr, 2007 2:19 am
Post subject: NAMES/ATTRIBUTES of GOD - Allah, God, Yahwa

Assalam Alaykum to every one.

According to Bible students the world Elohim means Lord and Jehovah means God.

The word god appears to be of Persian origin and appears to have been derived from the word Khuddah.

Those who know Persian will see at once that this is derived from the word Khood which means

the Self or the sanskrit Atmaan (Soul).

In India the Muslims always said Khuda Hafiz to mean Good bye or God Be With You.

But as soon as they realised their mistake, they switched over to saying Allah Hafiz.


Similarly they used the word Namaz (a Persian word) for Salaat. But the enlightened ones have now

started to use the correct word for Prayers which is Salaat.

More of Jehovah later.
- Wed 11 Apr, 2007 2:17 am
Post subject: NAMES/ATTRIBUTES of GOD - Allah, God, Yahwa
Tuesday, April 10, 2007


Assalam Alaykum to every one.


YHWH/Jehovah


Of all the names of God, the one which occurs most frequently in the Hebrew Bible is the Tetragrammaton, appearing 6,823 times, according to the Jewish Encyclopedia. The Biblia Hebraica and Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia texts of the Hebrew Scriptures each contain the Tetragrammaton 6,828 times.


In Judaism, the Tetragrammaton is the ineffable Name of God, and is therefore not to be spoken, except by the High Priest within the Holy of Holies in the Tabernacle and Temple in Jerusalem on Yom Kippur(Day of Atonement). In the reading aloud of the scripture or in prayer, it is replaced with Adonai ("My Lords", commonly rendered as "The LORD" in most modern English translations), though occasionally replaced with "Elohim" (GOD).


The form of J was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,I) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel. It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England.


Although there is scholarly debate on the relevance of "Yehovah", "Y'hovah", "Yehowah", "Yahweh" or similar pronunciations, many modern scholars believe that the English transcription "Jehovah" does not accurately represent God's name in the English language.[1] Nevertheless the transcription "Jehovah" continues to be used by some English-speaking Protestant Christians and by Jehovah's Witnesses.


Some modern scholars believe that the original pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton may have been lost somewhere in the first millennium, when the Jewish people stopped saying the Name, out of fear of violating the commandment "You shall not take the name of YHWH your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7)


Josephus wrote that the sacred name consisted of four vowels. Many sacred name ministries who believe that YHWH consists of four vowels pronounce these four vowels as "ee-ah-oo-eh" and believe that indicates God's name was either "Yahweh" or "Yahuweh". It is claimed that the Greek transcription "ιαουε" would have been pronounced "Yah-oo-eh". (Iota is used as both a vowel and a semi-vowel.) "Clement of Alexandria spelled the Tetragrammaton (Ya-oo-ai),(Ya-oo-eh)and (Ya-oh). In none of these is the central oo or oh vowel omitted", which is 'omitted in the name Yahweh.' However, since there was no letter in the Classical Greek alphabet for a [w] sound, the letter combination ου was sometimes used to transcribe a [w] sound in words borrowed from foreign languages into ancient Greek.


In Biblical Hebrew, most vowels are not written and the rest are written only ambiguously, as the vowel letters double as consonants (similar to the Latin use of V to indicate both U and V). See Matres lectionis for details. For similar reasons, an appearance of the Tetragrammaton in ancient Egyptian records of the 13th century BC sheds no light on the original pronunciation. 2. Therefore it is, in general, difficult to deduce how a word is pronounced from its spelling only, and the Tetragrammaton is a particular example: two of its letters can serve as vowels, and two are vocalic place-holders, which are not pronounced. Not surprisingly then, Josephus in Jewish Wars, chapter V, wrote, "Ã???????Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¬Ã???????Ã??????Ã?????Ã????Ã???Ã??Ã?¦in which was engraven the sacred name: it consists of four vowels". In Greek, they are Ιαου, which comes out to Yau, since iota is used to represent semi-vocalic 'y' (and omicron+ypsilon="oo").


Further, Josephus's four vowels are confirmed by theophoric stems in personal names, always: Yaho/Yahu/Y:ho/Y:hu. These yield in English Yau and Yao, which are pronounced the same. Once again, the heh is not pronounced here in Hebrew, but is used instead as a place holder. Moreover, Gnostic texts, such as those Marcion wrote, discuss the Judaic god extensively, and spell the Tetragrammaton in Greek, Ιαω, that is "Yao." Lastly, Levantine texts (including those from ancient Ugarit) render the Tetragrammaton Yaw, pronounced "Yau."


In Biblical Archaeology Review, reference is made to the fact that a two-syllable pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as "Yahweh" would not allow for the o vowel sound to exist as part of God's name. Thus the article stated:


"When the Tetragrammaton was pronounced in one syllable it was �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�???????Yah�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¢ or �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�???????Yo.�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¢ When it was pronounced in three syllables it would have been �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�???????Yahowah�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¢ or �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�???????Yahoowah.�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¢ If it was ever abbreviated to two syllables it would have been �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�???????Yaho.�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¢"


(Extracted & Shortened from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton)
- Tue 19 Jun, 2007 4:51 pm
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I was watching an egyptian program yesterday and I was shocked to find out that Al Azhar has removed 21 names of the 99 because they claim there is no support in Quran and Sunnah, on the other hand they replaced the 21 names by other names "mostely from Hadith"

I say this is tital crap,

Their secisoon was based on a research by an Arab Muslim not from Egypt, the researcher claimed that the Saudi didn't oppose him eaither

what do you think man?


# i dont think the attributes/names of god have to be restricted to (those found in) the quran....nor should they be limited to the arabic language!

what do u think? (-:


Assalam alaikum

Do it mean by nor should they be limited to the arabic language! that v can call Allah (S.W.T) with any languege name? Pls give reasan answer Inshalah. Jazakallah.
- Fri 29 Jun, 2007 7:28 pm
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Do it mean by nor should they be limited to the arabic language! that v can call Allah (S.W.T) with any languege name? Pls give reasan answer Inshalah. Jazakallah.


# well...yes..that is almost what i mean!

...but it would depend on what "name" u call upon god with! let's consider "shiva"...now then, some of the meanings of shiva that i have come across are "blessed one," "one who is bliss and gives happiness to all," "kind one," and "auspicious one"...and in that sense god could very well be called shiva (or brahma or vishnu for that matter)! but shiva also specifically denotes a hindu deity, and his attributes and nature runs against that of god...so there could be some misunderstandings!

...myself, well, i use any name/adjective for god as long as i know it doesn't pose a conflict!

## assalam alaikum..take care!
- Sun 01 Jul, 2007 12:30 am
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iqbalismail wrote:
Do it mean by nor should they be limited to the arabic language! that v can call Allah (S.W.T) with any languege name? Pls give reasan answer Inshalah. Jazakallah.


# well...yes..that is almost what i mean!

...but it would depend on what "name" u call upon god with! let's consider "shiva"...now then, some of the meanings of shiva that i have come across are "blessed one," "one who is bliss and gives happiness to all," "kind one," and "auspicious one"...and in that sense god could very well be called shiva (or brahma or vishnu for that matter)! but shiva also specifically denotes a hindu deity, and his attributes and nature runs against that of god...so there could be some misunderstandings!

...myself, well, i use any name/adjective for god as long as i know it doesn't pose a conflict!

## assalam alaikum..take care!


Assalam alaikum

I Not under-stand What U mean. Pls give Clear answer Inshallah. Jazakallah.
- Mon 02 Jul, 2007 1:06 am
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I Not under-stand What U mean. Pls give Clear answer Inshallah.


# i am sowwy that i cannot make myself clear. i ll try:

what i am saying is that i use any name from any language of god, as long as it means somethin nice and doesn't conflict with the nature/essence/attribute of god! like i said, "shiva" means "auspicious one"...so i use it for god in that sense! however, there is a hindu deity called shiva who has a snake around his nake, and i don't use shiva in that sense! (-:

## i wonder if that helps. i am unlikely to be around much longer, bro...nice talkin to u! (-:

### assalam alaikum...sowwy again for the misunderstandin, bud....take care! (-:
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