Bro, Satan is there to flaw his main enemy, and guess what?, his main enemy are the Muslims, therefore it is not strange to see many of them flawed and trying to create theor own Satanic concepts, they are the Mushrikoon indeed and I'm sure they will be exposed by Allah as time goes by
Take care bro
- Sun 05 Nov, 2006 12:04 am
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Hello All
I'm sorry that I haven't started to reply to the above article by FM webmaster, I actually want it exposed as long as possible so others have a chance to comprehend what it suggests, obviously what it suggests is that the 1.5 billion Muslims are idols worshippers and Mecca is a place for idol worshipping, this is a huge claim by the webmaster of FM, however it seems that it was not his, the above is nothing but a short version of a 193 pages article that was written by someone who sounds like a jew, the author of this 193 page is not a Muslim, you can clearly see this fact in every page that he wrote, I also found that there is msitakes in almost every page in those 193 pages but I'm not going to waste my time and respond to it, I will only respond to the short version of it as exctracted by the webmaster of FM, I will attach this word document to this thread to give the reader a chance to see how the suppoose to be Muslim who is alleging the above non sense is actually basing it on the work of a clear cut enemy of Allah
Salam
- Sun 05 Nov, 2006 4:33 pm
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As Salaamu Alaykum Ahmed:
I know that your rebuttle to Layth article will be dynamic and can't wait until you come out with it. Similiarly I've been thinking of writing a rebuttle to one of the Free-Minds members who teach that there is not a Qiblah.
Salaam
- Mon 06 Nov, 2006 11:29 pm
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Hello All,
Two expeditions to Oman were mounted; one in 1990 and one in 1991. The expedition team included Nicholas Clapp, Dr. Ronald Blom, archaeologist Dr. Juris Zarins, and British explorer Sir Ranulph Fiennes, who had been on previous Ubar searches. The team investigated the area around Ash Shisr, and soon an archaeological excavation began
The excavations uncovered a large octagonal fortress with thick walls ten feet high and eight tall towers at the corners. The archaeologists also found Greek, Roman, and Syrian pottery, the oldest of which was dated at more than 4,000 years old. The discovery of these types of artefacts from far away places indicated that this was indeed a major center for trade and likely the fabled Ubar.
A picture of Iram 's castles that were found on a depth of 10 meters under layers of sands. It is characterized by its huge pillars. The picture was taken via an American satellite.
One startling result of the excavation was that it appears that Ubar did meet with a catastrophic end, as many of the legends describe. The excavation revealed a giant limestone cavern beneath the fortress. The scientists believe that Ubar may have been destroyed when a large portion of it collapsed into the cavern.
There is still much to be discovered at the site and many questions remain. What is certain is that Mr. Clapp and his team took ancient stories and modern technology and from them wrung a significant archaeological discovery.
The search for Ubar is a good example of how remote sensing can be used with a more traditional discipline like archaeology. Radar imaging is one of the most important types of remote sensing in arid regions and it is has seen wide application in archaeology. In the search for Ubar, however, the limited coverage provided by the space shuttle-based imaging radar necessitated the use of other remotely sensed data.
Landsat imagery played a very important role in the search for Ubar. Using a sensor known as the Thematic Mapper, Landsat produced images that the team could use to identify features like surface tracks. Landsat imagery covers a large area in a single scene, over 30,000 square kilometres, allowing the team to analyse vast portions of the desert at one time.
Data from the French satellite known as SPOT were also used. The SPOT data provide the most detailed, or highest resolution, images available to the team
The researchers used these and other data in their search. Sophisticated image processing techniques were used to highlight the important features. Data from different sources were combined to yield more clues. The result was that the expedition was able to exclude large regions of the desert from consideration, and narrow the search to the most promising sites
In reality, Ubar was not the name of the city, but the name of the region. In the 2nd century A.D. Ptolemy made a map which called the area "Iobaritae", i.e. the Ubarites. The Quran called them "the people of 'Ad". Later legends referred to the fabulous wealth of the city and used the region name Ubar to designate it.
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This image from space shows a portion of the southern Empty Quarter of the Arabian Peninsula in the country of Oman. On the left is a radar image of the region around the site of the fabled Lost City of Ubar.
Below, we read that the Quran specified the location of Aad in Al-Ahqaaf:
And mention the brother of Ad; when he warned his people in the sandy plains,-- and indeed warners came before him and after him-- saying Serve none but Allah; surely I fear for you the punishment of a grievous day.
[The Quran ; 46:21]
وَاذْكُرْ أَخَا عَادٍ إِذْ أَنذَرَ قَوْمَهُ بِالْأَحْقَافِ وَقَدْ خَلَتْ النُّذُرُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ أَلَّا تَعْبُدُوا إِلَّا اللَّهَ إِنِّي أَخَافُ عَلَيْكُمْ عَذَابَ يَوْمٍ عَظِيمٍ (21)
Looking at the followings facts about Aad from the Quran:
1) The people of Hud were living in Al-Ahqaaf which means the Dunes, and the historians said that it is located between Yemen and Oman.
2) Aads people were having groves, livestocks, and springs.
3) Aad 's people built an enormous city called Iram, which had tremendous palaces and huge pillars. That is why, Allah described it in the Quran as: Iram; the city with huge pillars.
4) When they accused Hud of lying, Allah sent a stormy wind loaded with dust that killed them and immersed their city in sands.
This must conclude that the discovered city of Ubar is the city of Iram mentioned in the Quran
There is no doubt that what the author is trying to prove (that Thamud people lived in the same place as Aad's people) is nothing but dust in thin air, he provided not a single merited conclusive evidence
anyway the reaosn I want to get this thread back on track is to keep exposing the aloners and their cult leaders on free-minds.org, they are so bias that if you try to expose them on their web site they ban you, for example there a confused freak in there named Lobster, he is also a membetr here named "Phoniex", this guy does the following on free-minds.org web site:
