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LOL Bro, great video. I was a bit surprised though that the freak Realist wasn't included. I guess that it has to do with the fact that you dismissed that kafir for life
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Apple Pie Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: brainout wrote: ibn_rushd2 wrote: Doesn't this have to do with the piercing of Jesus on the Cross and he "water" (aka. urine) comes out? I haven't looked at the original arabic yet, so maybe that will help unlock it. John 19:34, haima kai hudwp, proving He was dead already. My pastor translates this as "blood clots and serum". Which makes sense, as the context is all about proving He died, and the blood separates at death. It's refreshing to see you guys apply hermeneutics to the Koran. So many just do a slapdash job, as if the Koran were a second-class citizen. I'm sure the Lord would want us to really evaluate it. Your posts here really have saved me a lot of time. So: do you know any Koranic software which allows you to put your mouse pointer over the Arabic and you get a lexical entry? I'm spoiled by BibleWorks for Bible. Hi Brainout�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦ Welcome to the forum. I admire your enthusiasm to dig into the scriptures�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦.just be sure to pace yourself and not burn-out prematurely�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦ Regarding Koranic resources, I have not come across any that are at the level of that of the Holy Bible, in which there are lexical entries hidden behind the surface word(s), however, here are a couple that our Muslim brothers have put together for us�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦ �?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¢ http://www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm �?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¢ http://www.openburhan.com/ob_main_frame.html The gold-standard lexicon for interpreting the Koran is Lane�?????�????�???�??�?�¢??s Lexicon, and can be found for free through the studyquran group�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦ I look forward to any input that you have regarding sura 86 �?????�????�???�??�?�¢?? especially on the ayahs already covered�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¦ Quote: Finally, what if the "ichor" is an indirect way of specifying where sperm/egg STARTS? Or, if it's referring to the female in pregnancy (since the rest of the sura treats earth as a womb opening), you're looking at the placenta, maybe (navel is maybe meant)? Or, Depending on how the text really reads literally in Arabic, it's anatomically true that glands which begin the secretions are higher -- especially since the entire Sura has this Alpha-and-Omega flavor to it, a lot like the way John writes in John, 1John, and Rev. At-Tariq seems to 'reply' in that same circular, reproductive manner (filling all in all, completing the circle, ties to Ephesians 1). Just thinking out loud, here. Good thoughts... I believe that the only way that "reproduction" can be thought of in sura 86, is via mankind being "rebirthed" as a new creation through Jesus Christ. Sura 86 is all about Jesus Christ, His death upon the cross, His resurrection, and that He is God Almighty. It is the way in which it was written which has caused the casual reader to go astray with unintended meanings. The authors who penned this sura really understood the Biblical Jesus. This has unfortunately been totally lost in Islam... |
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that Surah 86 talks about semen coming out? LOL!
I can read FFI but I can't post. He thinks it is about Jesus coming out.
ROTFLMAO, he thinks Sulb is Saleeb. |
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| Bro, just wondering, what is it that Allah is refering to in Surah Tariq??? |
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Salam bro It is clear that verse 2 states and what is Al Tariq, then in verse 3 Allah answered your question to what He meant by the Tariq He said, it is Al Nijm Al Thaqib, i.e. the piercing star, it can't be the normak stars, it has to be a PIRECING star according to harun Yahya it implies referring to the Pulsars, and I tend to accept his understanding |
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Bro, thanks for the clarification, but I was wondering as to what Allah was refering to that "proceeds between the backbone and ribs"
It is clearly not semen that Allah refers to in 86:7. Do you have any idea what it is bro? |