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- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 7:44 am
Post subject: www.challenge2islam.wetpaint.com
While browsing through google results I saw my blog [url]wwwchallenge2islam.wetpaint.com[/url] quoted by a joker here who on one hand says that I have no substance and on the other hand suggests Bahgat to debate against me. You see what chaos Islam does to minds?

Well, I know most Muslims don't bother to scrutinize their "holy" book for the fear of Allah who they think is always watching them (even in their toilets). Keeping this in mind, I am coming down to Earth to ask a simple question:

What is the meaning of "Alif, Laam, Meem", "Kaaf, Ha, Ya, Aeeen, Suaaad" (Muqattiaat) in the "Easy to understand Quran"?

Jai Shri Krishna

Rajesh Kumar
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 8:11 am
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Welcome to free islam

please be aware this web site is not a circus, you need to present coherent arguments with merit, and please one argument at a time so I can reply to it

Thank you, and enjoy your stay in here

Salam
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 8:12 am
Post subject: Re: www.challenge2islam.wetpaint.com
letstalk wrote:
What is the meaning of "Alif, Laam, Meem", "Kaaf, Ha, Ya, Aeeen, Suaaad" (Muqattiaat) in the "Easy to understand Quran"?


Hello

Before I reply to that, you need to show me first where the Quran said that it is easy to understand

Cheers
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 9:35 am
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letstalk wrote:
While browsing through google results I saw my blog [url]www. challenge2islam.wetpaint.com[/url] quoted by a joker here who on one hand says that I have no substance and on the other hand suggests Bahgat to debate against me. You see what chaos Islam does to minds?

Well, I know most Muslims don't bother to scrutinize their "holy" book for the fear of Allah who they think is always watching them (even in their toilets). Keeping this in mind, I am coming down to Earth to ask a simple question:

What is the meaning of "Alif, Laam, Meem", "Kaaf, Ha, Ya, Aeeen, Suaaad" (Muqattiaat) in the "Easy to understand Quran"?

Jai Shri Krishna

Rajesh Kumar


RK you should not promote your idioticly named "wetpant" domain here on this website.

Rest of your post is nothing but crap and should not be entertained.

Evil or Very Mad
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 6:34 pm
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1. What I have posted is the initiation of "one argument" not a thousand.

2. Quran says in Surah 54, verse 17 that it is easy to understand. (also in Surah 19, verse 97 - without the word "zikr" Wink )


3. To Rigel: I am supposed to debate against Baghat. Would you like to kindly see the way out?
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 7:23 pm
Post subject: Re: www.challenge2islam.wetpaint.com
letstalk wrote:
While browsing through google results I saw my blog [url]wwwchallenge2islam.wetpaint.com[/url] quoted by a joker here who on one hand says that I have no substance and on the other hand suggests Bahgat to debate against me. You see what chaos Islam does to minds?

Well, I know most Muslims don't bother to scrutinize their "holy" book for the fear of Allah who they think is always watching them (even in their toilets). Keeping this in mind, I am coming down to Earth to ask a simple question:

What is the meaning of "Alif, Laam, Meem", "Kaaf, Ha, Ya, Aeeen, Suaaad" (Muqattiaat) in the "Easy to understand Quran"?

Jai Shri Krishna

Rajesh Kumar


Hello,

Nobody from this site has asked you to debate Ahmed Bahgat.

I believe it was an FFI goon or yourself asking for one at FFI.

However, I did write you an email from my GMail once. You did reply and I cross-checked with the poster and the poster asked you to withdraw his/her email responses.

We keep this site civil, so if you are here to learn, you will be welcome. If you are here for intellectual masturbation, I would suggest you write at FFI cesspool.

I will tell you what is the meaning of Alif, Laam, Meem, Kaaf, Ha, Ya, Suad, Ra, etc. Those are Arabic letters.

Qur'aan was addressed to the pagan Meccans and the Jews. Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic are all Semitic languages and are very close. And all have almost similar letters sounding almost alike.

So, when the Jews heard Alif, Beth, Lamed, wauw and Mim, etc., coming from the Prophet, it rang a bell in their ears.

The main reason was to draw their attention. Hope this helped.

Currently, I am very busy here grilling Sani (Sanitarium), a lead writer and an active supporter of FFI, who lies through her teeth, is a Liar and a great deceiver.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TNMPDBOB7151KU2I9/p16#c312

A few FFI goons have arrived there and you might help Sani, the Liar.

Please write only in this thread.

Baig M Z (BMZ)
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 7:28 pm
Post subject:
Rigel wrote:
letstalk wrote:
While browsing through google results I saw my blog [url]www. challenge2islam.wetpaint.com[/url] quoted by a joker here who on one hand says that I have no substance and on the other hand suggests Bahgat to debate against me. You see what chaos Islam does to minds?

Well, I know most Muslims don't bother to scrutinize their "holy" book for the fear of Allah who they think is always watching them (even in their toilets). Keeping this in mind, I am coming down to Earth to ask a simple question:

What is the meaning of "Alif, Laam, Meem", "Kaaf, Ha, Ya, Aeeen, Suaaad" (Muqattiaat) in the "Easy to understand Quran"?

Jai Shri Krishna

Rajesh Kumar


RK you should not promote your idioticly named "wetpant" domain here on this website.

Rest of your post is nothing but crap and should not be entertained.

Evil or Very Mad


I believe, the poster wants Ahmed's attention. lol!

Let him have it.

How are you?

Salaams
Baig
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 7:38 pm
Post subject:
letstalk wrote:
1. What I have posted is the initiation of "one argument" not a thousand.

2. Quran says in Surah 54, verse 17 that it is easy to understand. (also in Surah 19, verse 97 - without the word "zikr" Wink )


3. To Rigel: I am supposed to debate against Baghat. Would you like to kindly see the way out?


Hello

As I said let's talk, this is not a circus, my name is Bahgat

How do you want me to debate one who does not even know how to write my name, do I have a point?

Cheers
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 7:41 pm
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So these letters were there to draw Jews' etc. attentions, right? Let's remove them now. They are not needed for this purpose anymore. Agree? And may I know where the Quran says that these letters were for drawing their attention?
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 7:45 pm
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Dear Bahgat (hope "YOUR" name is spelled right this time)

Your statement cries out loud that you are refraining from this debate. You are more concerned about your name than your sweetie tweetie Quran.

Even you don't know how to spell my user name. It's "letstalk" not "let's talk". lol

So you don't have a point. You have an excuse.
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 7:59 pm
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letstalk wrote:
Dear Bahgat (hope "YOUR" name is spelled right this time)


Dear letstalk

Why you have to act shifty?

Don't expect that you will have my respect while acting as such, my advice to you

letstalk wrote:
Your statement cries out loud that you are refraining from this debate. You are more concerned about your name than your sweetie tweetie Quran.


Well, not really that I am worried, I am just trying to find out if you are serious or a mere clown, and it seems the latest, possibly I am wrong, you know

letstalk wrote:
Even you don't know how to spell my user name. It's "letstalk" not "let's talk". lol


Well, let's talk = letstalk, unless you want it to be 'let stalk'

However Baghat cannot be Bahgat, as well Baghat implies mocking, so if you are here to mock me, let me tell you in advance that you are going to lose

letstalk wrote:
So you don't have a point. You have an excuse.


Let's see your excuse for your argument:

You said the Quran said it is easy to understand, however it has some letters that no one can understand

now for me to reply to your argument, it must have merit, and I already told you what merit you need to provide, you need to show me where the Quran said that it is easy to understand. When you do so, it means you have completed your merited argument, and in this case I will look at it, other than that, you can beat around the bush, or damce the macarina on FI, your existance does not bother me
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 8:18 pm
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Bahgat

If Quran had said Bahgat=Bughat I bet you wouldn't refuse lol.

As for the merit (Oh! you know English!!!), I have already said where the Quran said it is easy to understand. See my second post in this thread.
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 8:36 pm
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letstalk wrote:
So these letters were there to draw Jews' etc. attentions, right? Let's remove them now. They are not needed for this purpose anymore. Agree? And may I know where the Quran says that these letters were for drawing their attention?


First and most important. You did not know about this at all and you have been told. You have only learnt it today and the letters will remain there till eternity.

I said that. Remember, you asked a question.

BMZ
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 8:59 pm
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Yes I do remember I asked a question. But where is the answer? Does your Islam also say "Believe in all the brag resulting from BMZ's intellectual wanking."? That these letters were there to draw those people's attention is not written anywhere in the Quran. You lose.
- Fri 31 Jul, 2009 9:40 pm
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letstalk wrote:
Bahgat

If Quran had said Bahgat=Bughat I bet you wouldn't refuse lol.


Well, that is between me and the Quran, you need to butt out of it


letstalk wrote:
As for the merit (Oh! you know English!!!), I have already said where the Quran said it is easy to understand. See my second post in this thread.


Lol, it seems you don't only need merit, you also need some IQ points, as I said, you need to show me that the Quran said it is easy to understand, this is because I reject your allegation that the Quran said so, therefore the onus is upon you to prove it

Bring the verse and walk me through it, just a verse reference will not be accepted as evidence, you also need to specify which translation you are brining
- Sat 01 Aug, 2009 4:44 am
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letstalk wrote:
Yes I do remember I asked a question. But where is the answer? Does your Islam also say "Believe in all the brag resulting from BMZ's intellectual wanking."? That these letters were there to draw those people's attention is not written anywhere in the Quran. You lose.


Then, why did you ask? If you ask, you must listen.

It is not necessary. I have told you and that is more than enough.

Have you read and understood Qur'aan in Arabic or do you read it with the help of various translations in English?

BMZ
- Sat 01 Aug, 2009 5:17 am
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Confused Phewww!!! Not your fault, perhaps. You are suffering from the most chronic of all diseases ever known called "Islam".

Get well soon

So long
- Sat 01 Aug, 2009 5:58 am
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letstalk wrote:
1. What I have posted is the initiation of "one argument" not a thousand.

2. Quran says in Surah 54, verse 17 that it is easy to understand. (also in Surah 19, verse 97 - without the word "zikr" Wink )


3. To Rigel: I am supposed to debate against Baghat. Would you like to kindly see the way out?


RK, who said Ahmed will be debating you, he will rape you of your words, heres an advise to you; Run Away!
- Sat 01 Aug, 2009 1:01 pm
Post subject:
Rigel wrote:
letstalk wrote:
1. What I have posted is the initiation of "one argument" not a thousand.

2. Quran says in Surah 54, verse 17 that it is easy to understand. (also in Surah 19, verse 97 - without the word "zikr" Wink )


3. To Rigel: I am supposed to debate against Baghat. Would you like to kindly see the way out?


RK, who said Ahmed will be debating you, he will rape you of your words, heres an advise to you; Run Away!


That is indeed a good advice. lol!

Salaams
- Sat 01 Aug, 2009 1:03 pm
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letstalk wrote:
Confused Phewww!!! Not your fault, perhaps. You are suffering from the most chronic of all diseases ever known called "Islam".

Get well soon

So long


You sound like Ali Sina's student. Laughing
- Mon 03 Aug, 2009 8:59 pm
Post subject:
letstalk wrote:
Confused Phewww!!! Not your fault, perhaps. You are suffering from the most chronic of all diseases ever known called "Islam".

Get well soon

So long


salams

dear rajesh
i told you before itself and i am reminding you
any hindu in this world does not have a right to talk about Islam or Muslims
i gave you lots of reasons for this on ffi
you never answered me their
i hope you answer me here
pl answer me why still hindu are behaving like animals

with regards


Mushtaq
- Tue 04 Aug, 2009 7:02 pm
Post subject:
parvez_mushtaq wrote:
letstalk wrote:
Confused Phewww!!! Not your fault, perhaps. You are suffering from the most chronic of all diseases ever known called "Islam".

Get well soon

So long


salams

dear rajesh
i told you before itself and i am reminding you
any hindu in this world does not have a right to talk about Islam or Muslims
i gave you lots of reasons for this on ffi
you never answered me their
i hope you answer me here
pl answer me why still hindu are behaving like animals

with regards


Mushtaq


Hello, Mushtaq

I have not seen posters like Rajesh Kumar answering anything.

In fact, instead of teaching and explaining to them, we should ask them more questions. lol!

Salaams
BMZ
- Tue 04 Aug, 2009 7:32 pm
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Quote:
Hello, Mushtaq

I have not seen posters like Rajesh Kumar answering anything.

In fact, instead of teaching and explaining to them, we should ask them more questions. lol!

Salaams
BMZ


salams

i visited his site when i saw him first in ffi
i just scanned through it by its page
i was really surprised to read this follwing lines

Aryavratt I pity you Muhammadan 0 Jun 27 2009, 5:15 AM EDT by Aryavratt


Thread started: Jun 27 2009, 5:15 AM EDT Watch
Muhammadan, we Hindus have the responsibilty of showing you arab slaves the right path and take you away from ev


i read just this line and nothing else
then i came back to ffi and exposed his faith .

Hidden: 
expozIslam wrote:people blinded by hatred cannot see the truth when it is staring them in their face.



Hatred , woow , Look here
hindus teaching love
I think this must be worst days of ffi
I called hindus as superior animals
I don?????????????????????¢??t have any regrets
Lets see this religion called Hinduism

Muslims are not allowed in hindu home, leave of Muslims even hindus themselves don?????????????????????¢??t allow hindus in their own house,
As a matter of fact they even don?????????????????????¢??t allow hindus in their temples itself
I had a bramin friend in my school days , I was not welcomed into his house .if at all I enter his house , they used to wash their house cos I am impure, amazing love for humanity , isn?????????????????????¢??t .
dhram brast ho jay a ga (idiots , hindus) and quran says
and as a Muslim I believe in this verse


Surah: 49 Aya: 13

O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.


And they I am a hater and one who condones untoucability is a lover of humanity

Beautiful justice indeed !

lets look at their poojas

my friend completed his godown with all modern amenities
and the way he did was amazing
there is no hindu on the earth who build his house or godown without VASTU
so he build his godown as per perfect VASTU as instructed by a poojari
after completion of the building , he called a another poojri who is bigger than the previous one
and this poojari ,at the entrance it self poojari screamed ?????????????????????¢??you will get ruined to dust here?????????????????????¢?????????????????????? and he suggested him to rebuild his godown and that idiot hindu rebuilt it almost 25% of it
ok
the building was completed again
one more pooja started
it don?????????????????????¢??t know the name of that stupid pooja
it was done at 3 A.M
the beauty of that pooja was , they brought a cow giving some thing so that it should shit (what a stupid religion) but the cow did not entered that godown so they beat it hard .poor cow got up and went to the place where they wanted it to shit
my friend was happy
the reason was , pooajri told him the quantity of dung was huge and so he will gain lots of money
see the economics of these idiots
and I BET OUR FRIEND MR.RAJESH WITH HIS FAMILY WOULD HAVE EVEN ROLLED IN THE COW DUNG ON THE INAUGURATION OF HIS WEB SITE

COW DUNG IS PROPORTIONAL TO PROFITS

I will tell you few more things about their stupid mentality
One of my hindu friend considered his third son was inauspicious as per the advice of some poojari so he never wants his son to appear when ever he goes out to work .he orders his wife to tie him down when ever he leaves to his office

One more story on the same line (poojari again)
My neighbor always wants his wife to come with a smiling face at the entrance when ever he leaves to office
And that lady smile like a stupid daily at the entrance

What an intelligent people they are
I don?????????????????????¢??t know what that little boy did as well as how come that women smile will make his day good
They have poojari?????????????????????¢??s saying in every thing
Their stupid vastu,poojas and their beliefs
These things are affecting people, them as well as those who are around them for example that little boy , cow as well as that woman

These things make me to remember about
One more stupid thing I want to mention here is ravoo kalaam and savvai dhosaham
Ravoo kaalaam is the time when hindu don?????????????????????¢??t even shit
And women with savvai dhosham will not get married easily

These things make me to remember about this verse in quran

Surah: 2 Aya: 189
They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the new moons. Say, "They are measurements of time for the people and for Hajj." And it is not righteousness to enter houses from the back, but righteousness is [in] one who fears Allah. And enter houses from their doors. And fear Allah that you may succeed.


And btw , they have poojs for mew moon and no moon as well
There are lots many
I am thinking of starting a forum like this to discuss there idiotic beliefs

One more problem is dowry
I think I don?????????????????????¢??t have to talk about dowry system among hindus
Father of a female will be on roads when he make the marriage of his daughter
Anyway let?????????????????????¢??s have a glimpse

See this news

http://www.hinduonnet.com/mag/2007/07/1 ... 040300.htm

and how many women were/are burnt alive by their husbands for dowry


Now once again let?????????????????????¢??s see about poojaris role in hindu?????????????????????¢??s life

As per the instruction of swamiji , this idiots even kill and rape their children
You will find lots of this news in Indian news papers
Almost you will read atleast two such cases per month

http://nitwitnastik.wordpress.com/2009/ ... rosperity/

http://khanmudasser.wordpress.com/2009/ ... %E2%80%99/

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/poli ... dol-5.html

After reading this links pl read this following verse form quran

Surah: 6 Aya: 137
And likewise, to many of the polytheists their partners have made [to seem] pleasing the killing of their children in order to bring about their destruction and to cover them with confusion in their religion. And if Allah had willed, they would not have done so. So leave them and that which they invent.

Surah: 6 Aya: 140
Those will have lost who killed their children in foolishness without knowledge and prohibited what Allah had provided for them, inventing untruth about Allah . They have gone astray and were not [rightly] guided.


Surah: 6 Aya: 151
Say, "Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to you. [He commands] that you not associate anything with Him, and to parents, good treatment, and do not kill your children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them. And do not approach immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This has He instructed you that you may use reason."



Surah: 17 Aya: 31

And do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Indeed, their killing is ever a great sin

Surah: 60 Aya: 12
O Prophet, when the believing women come to you pledging to you that they will not associate anything with Allah , nor will they steal, nor will they commit unlawful sexual intercourse, nor will they kill their children, nor will they bring forth a slander they have invented between their arms and legs, nor will they disobey you in what is right - then accept their pledge and ask forgiveness for them of Allah . Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.



Lets look one more interesting (people having heart problems pl avoid watching this) thing about these idiots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdV2hO3a ... re=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgXeyBIh ... re=channel

If you Why this ppl are doing all this non-sense
The answer is MONEY
Just money
They want money
Lots of money
And they believe by doing this non-sense they will get lots of money from GOD
What they don?????????????????????¢??t know is just having faith in ALLAH alone and performing just two rakas tahjajjud or naflh or even in farz salah ALLAH can provide and solve all their problems

Surah: 2 Aya: 195

And spend in the way of Allah and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, Allah loves the doers of good.

One more ayah

2:286


لَا يُكَلِّفُ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِلَّا وُسْعَهَا لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَعَلَيْهَا مَا اكْتَسَبَتْ رَبَّنَا لَا تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِنْ نَسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا رَبَّنَا وَلَا تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْنَا إِصْرًا كَمَا حَمَلْتَهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ مِنْ قَبْلِنَا رَبَّنَا وَلَا تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لَا طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَا أَنْتَ مَوْلَانَا فَانْصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ

Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned. "Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred. Our Lord, and lay not upon us a burden like that which You laid upon those before us. Our Lord, and burden us not with that which we have no ability to bear. And pardon us; and forgive us; and have mercy upon us. You are our protector, so give us victory over the disbelieving people."

Now the question is ,are this people are humans

If you say it is perfectly normal to believe in vastu Or to think my own kids are inauspicious or making wife to smile like a idiot or making wife to take bath nakedly in public or to rape daughters or to accept dowry or to burnt women alive or to Piercing my body is human then I apologies for calling them superior animals


my suggestion to hindus is

Surah: 7 Aya: 172

And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], "Am I not your Lord?" They said, "Yes, we have testified." [This] - lest you should say on the day of Resurrection, "Indeed, we were of this unaware."




Surah: 7 Aya: 173

Or [lest] you say, "It was only that our fathers associated [others in worship] with Allah before, and we were but descendants after them. Then would You destroy us for what the falsifiers have done?"


It is very clear every human is programmed for monotheism and each and every one among us feels this
Then why don?????????????????????¢??t you ppl
Read this ayah

Surah: 7 Aya: 157
Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful.



And get rid of your shackles
This is a very serious call and this is out of sympathy
Get rightly guided

with all sympathy

Mushtaq


without any shame he is still talking against Islam without answering me
i think ,this people don't have a bit shame remaining in them
as regards with Islam you know there are millions of people giving answers every day

what to do , we have to just laugh at them and nothing else
they are making idiots out of themselves
lol
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