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Salam all

This post was too long that somehow is cauisng problems currently, i had to remove my whole comment from the DB then will try to divide it into 2 comments at the end of this thread.

The problem is a PHP stack error

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SAlam brother AB,

Great stuff bro, like it for a non-arab like who is trying to learn Arabic these things do help me out not much but atleast i can understand something.
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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
SAlam brother AB,

Great stuff bro, like it for a non-arab like who is trying to learn Arabic these things do help me out not much but atleast i can understand something.


No worries mate

Ramadan Karim

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Quite a lot of Muslims are unaware of Ali Sina, who claims to be an ex-Muslim and carries a fake name, while living in Canada, a safe place and no one has seen him or met him. He even claims to have a Ph.D. and is known as Dr. Ali Sina. I don't know how can a Western University grant Ph.D to a fake person, entitling himself to be called Dr. Ali Sina. The man does not know and does not understand Arabic at all. Here is a note to let all know how he twists and turns verses of Qur'aan after reading translations in English:

At the link, http://www.faithfreedom.org, Ali Sina wrote:

"Yep! We Were Hacked." He wrote something very laughable and coming from him, it sounds so ridiculous:

"We are particularly grateful to our companion in arms Mr. Robert Spencer for announcing in http://www.Jihadwatch.com that FFI has been hacked." (Bold emphasis is mine)

He goes on to say: "Muslims feel helpless and are aware of their inability to respond to our arguments. That is not because we are smarter or are more learned than them. The reason we are unbeatable is because we speak the truth. If you tell the truth, you can confront the entire world and win all the time."

And then comes the laughable from this man who does not even know and understand Arabic: "What do you expect of a people who worship none but the Khairul Makerin, the Best Deceiver, as their god?"

Ali Sina, who has been fooling the world, does not know that the famous Western translators in English have not at all translated what he claims. It sends a clear message to the world that Ali Sina is a fraud, supported by polemic evangelists and other Islam haters.

I suggest Ali Sina copies and pastes the verse on Khairul-Maakayreen, on his own site in caps, from all the English translations, quoting each Western and other translators for the world to see that he is the only one who fraudulently twisted and turned a verse of Qur'aan. If he is honest about his conviction, he should do this, close his site and go down and live in a Senile hole.

If Ali Sina thinks he is true, then I hope to see him discuss and clear this issue, which of course he cannot. His own attacks are making him weaker and I don't think he would dare post any translations that use the word "Deceiver". What is happening is that his attacks are not only making Muslims stronger but also are making his goons and other Westerners seriously think that the man Ali Sina is a liar and that he misquotes verses of Qur'aan purposely for his own agenda.

He talks about his last debate with one mujahid, whom, he calls a terrorist and writes:

Khairul Makerin:
The Best Deceiver
2007/09/04

By Ali Sina

There is a verse in the Quran that says �?????�????�???�??�?�¢??they deceived and Allah deceived and Allah is the best deceiver.�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?� (Q. 3:54)


Why would an all powerful God want to deceive, is something that only Muhammad can think of. Certainly, might and deception are oxymoronic. A God that resorts to deception, can't be almighty. The entire career of Muhammad was filled with deception, lies, manipulations and tricks. He even licensed his followers to malign him in order to win the trust of their victims and when they lower their guards assassinate them."

ROTFLMAO!

Let us extend this challenge to Ali Sina and ask him to explain and prove that the above verse means what he says.

Love is more beautiful than the hate that you are generating with your foul tactics, Ali Sina. Islam will be there for more than thirty years, in fact it will be there forever. It is you who will return to your Creator within the next thirty years. LOL! Anta lil-laahe wa anta ilaihay ra'ajay. Did you understand this Ali Sina?

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Salam mate

I copied your comment to FFI web site, I hope the Ms wonlt delete it

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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Salam mate

I copied your comment to FFI web site, I hope the Ms wonlt delete it

Salam


Thanks, Ahmed.

FFI has banned me so well that I can't enter it even through the strongest proxy-servers. LOL!
The Moderator at FFI will cook up some excuse to delete it. The M there is good at that.

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Here we go bro:

would you be able to browse FFI through this thread:



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Damn its never possible for me it says its blocked.
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Damn its never possible for me it says its blocked.



LOL bro

Look man, I can help you with my IT expertise and all is legal, me as a professional IT person never get involve in any backyard solutions that may make me questionable

here is what I can do for you and ONLY for you (not for others, sorry, I will explain why)

I can create an Terminal Server user account on my Terminal Server server in Sydney (I have 2 servers), then using a remote desktop session on your XP machine you will login to my terminal server and you will get a new desktop, in there I will put one working icon (the internet), and from there you can browse FFI (the trafic will be coming out from sydney)

see because I will use my company server, I will only do it for one person and lucky you, you are the first, please let me know if you are interested because there is a bit of technical steps that I have to do first

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Here we go bro:

would you be able to browse FFI through this thread:



Salam


LOL! Cannot.

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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Here we go bro:

would you be able to browse FFI through this thread:



Salam


LOL! Cannot.

BMZ


LOL mate

I know why (technically), it has something to do with the main header of any web browser request and you shoould know even with using proxies, the route to your IP address must be identifed and codd somewhere

ok if you really want to read them, (i'm kicking their arses bro Very Happy Alhamdullelah) then I will extend my terminal server offer to you, but only to read and not to reply because they can ban that IP address (i have plenty and can change it) but this will be a hassle to change my public IP address with another public one that I have for reserve, it will take about 48 hours to probagate and during that time my terminal server wont be accessed and will affect my work

Please let me know

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Salam bro BMZ

here is a better solution man

I can raise a plea with the Ms in there to unban you (only if you agree for me to do so), I will also do it publically in the Talk the Ms sub forum

I will explain the situation to them and give them an assurance that whatever they think you did wrong won't happen again, what do you think?

I actually think it is a good idea because the Ms in there are very reasonable to be honest, in fact I believe they are the best Moderators I have seen so far on the net

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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
Damn its never possible for me it says its blocked.



LOL bro

Look man, I can help you with my IT expertise and all is legal, me as a professional IT person never get involve in any backyard solutions that may make me questionable

here is what I can do for you and ONLY for you (not for others, sorry, I will explain why)

I can create an Terminal Server user account on my Terminal Server server in Sydney (I have 2 servers), then using a remote desktop session on your XP machine you will login to my terminal server and you will get a new desktop, in there I will put one working icon (the internet), and from there you can browse FFI (the trafic will be coming out from sydney)

see because I will use my company server, I will only do it for one person and lucky you, you are the first, please let me know if you are interested because there is a bit of technical steps that I have to do first

Cheers


Salam brother AB,

I am interested ofcourse sorry for the delay thanks a lot yes and lucky me. Let me what are these kuffar upto.
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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
AhmedBahgat wrote:
SlaveofAllaah wrote:
Damn its never possible for me it says its blocked.



LOL bro

Look man, I can help you with my IT expertise and all is legal, me as a professional IT person never get involve in any backyard solutions that may make me questionable

here is what I can do for you and ONLY for you (not for others, sorry, I will explain why)

I can create an Terminal Server user account on my Terminal Server server in Sydney (I have 2 servers), then using a remote desktop session on your XP machine you will login to my terminal server and you will get a new desktop, in there I will put one working icon (the internet), and from there you can browse FFI (the trafic will be coming out from sydney)

see because I will use my company server, I will only do it for one person and lucky you, you are the first, please let me know if you are interested because there is a bit of technical steps that I have to do first

Cheers


Salam brother AB,

I am interested ofcourse sorry for the delay thanks a lot yes and lucky me. Let me what are these kuffar upto.


Ok mate

I will prepare it this week end and let you know

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Salam bro BMZ

here is a better solution man

I can raise a plea with the Ms in there to unban you (only if you agree for me to do so), I will also do it publically in the Talk the Ms sub forum

I will explain the situation to them and give them an assurance that whatever they think you did wrong won't happen again, what do you think?

I actually think it is a good idea because the Ms in there are very reasonable to be honest, in fact I believe they are the best Moderators I have seen so far on the net

Salam


Yes, Ahmed, you can discuss with them about unbanning but I have to maintain my stand that upto the point of accusation and banning, I had not multi-nicked.

I had only used other names such as milah and vortex to get in after the ban and those too have also been banned. If the Ms there were truly honest and reasonable people, they would not have banned me at all. I stiil have some of their PMs to me. I had challenged them to produce my "nicknames" but they could not.

No worries, bro. You can tell them I wish to browse and read the posts but I do not wish to write. I can write here and at other places about their silly posts. Laughing Laughing

Salaams
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