Is Reincarnation Possible?

[AhmedBahgat]

Peace All

This is a thread about reincarnation that I discussed with a few Quran aloners, ironically many of them believe that incarnation exists, however if you try to quiz those reincarnation advocates you will find yourself not sure e what they are trying to say here:

Is it:

1) Yes, reincarnation exists by the will of Allah
2) No, it does not by the will of Allah
3) It is possible by the will of Allah
4) Reincarnation = resurrection

The problem here reincarnation means that the soul comes again in a different person in this very life, not in a new life in another place, Here is something from the web:

The concept of reincarnation seems to offer one of the most attractive explanations of man's origin and destiny. There is an increasing interest in this topic today, sustained especially by books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences. Most of them are related to the world of esoterical wisdom and occult phenomena. Reincarnation is a hot topic also on the Internet, as you may have already noticed. Not only adherents of Eastern religions or New Age spirituality accept it currently, but also many who don't share such esoteric interests and convictions.

Reincarnation seems to give hope for continuing one's existence in further lives and thus having a better chance to attain liberation. This is a source of great comfort, especially for those who seek liberation on the exclusive basis of their inner resources. On the other hand, reincarnation is a way of rejecting the Christian teaching of the soul's final judgment by a holy God, with the possible result of being eternally condemned to suffer in hell. Another major reason for accepting reincarnation by so many people today is the fact that it allegedly explains the differences that exist between people. Some are healthy, others are tormented their whole life by physical handicaps. Some are rich, others at the brink of starvation. Some have success without being religious; others are constant losers, despite their religious dedication. Eastern religions explain these differences as a result of previous lives, good or bad, which bear their fruits into the present one through the action of karma. Therefore reincarnation seems to be a perfect way of punishing or rewarding one's deeds, without the need of accepting a personal God as Ultimate Reality.

Many people who accept reincarnation in the West today claim that it can be scientifically proven. They usually ground their belief on so-called past life recall experiences, which represent the ability of certain persons to recall facts of alleged previous lives. There are two categories of this phenomenon. One is observed under hypnosis, while regressing certain persons beyond the date of birth. The other is produced by some children who spontaneously remember a previous life identity, amazing their neighbours with specific details that match with the life of a deceased person. Could these experiences really be proofs for reincarnation?


See the soul must come back in another person in this life not in another life, therefore those who try to mix it with the resurrection are blowing a punctured balloon because of the followings:

1) The soul don't come back in this life but in the hereafter (Resurrection)

2) The soul don't come back to another person but to the same person (Resurrection)

3) The whole earth in the hereafter will disappear and will be replaced by another earth, i.e. totally different planet:

One day the earth will be changed to a different earth, and so will be the heavens, and (men) will be marshalled forth, before Allah, the One, the Irresistible
[The Quran ; 14:48]

يَوْمَ تُبَدَّلُ الأَرْضُ غَيْرَ الأَرْضِ وَالسَّمَاوَاتُ وَبَرَزُواْ للّهِ الْوَاحِدِ الْقَهَّارِ (48)

Therefore, reincarnation advocates should stop sucking at the resurrection because they absolutely have no point to say reincarnation = resurrection, I guess they just trying hard to make it sound more comfortable, I call this make their feelings like They Feel Good, but I know I wouldn't do that

I guess they have been influenced by books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences, never a religious book to use to support their flawed concept, that flawed concept was inspired in our minds by Satan to corrupt us and make us sway from the clear truth told to us in the Quran, the truth according to the Quran that there is no such thing, a few members on FM posted compelling verses that clearly deny it and yet some still insist to follow books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies, conferences and the chat chat on forums.

This concept is nothing but Satan spoiling our attachment to this low life, '???????????Al Hayatu Al Donya'????. From the above we read that reincarnation is a source of great comfort, while the Quran told us:

Those who believe and whose hearts are set at rest by the remembrance of Allah; now surely by Allah's remembrance are the hearts set at rest.
[The Quran ; 13:28]

الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ وَتَطْمَئِنُّ قُلُوبُهُم بِذِكْرِ اللّهِ أَلاَ بِذِكْرِ اللّهِ تَطْمَئِنُّ الْقُلُوبُ (28)

-> See, '???? now surely by Allah's remembrance are the hearts set at rest.'????, not by this bloody flawed satanic concept called reincarnation which is clearly denied in the Quran as we will see later. You can see from the info above how that satanic concept denies God.

My point here is, instead of seeking comfort in the remembrance of Allah through His Quran, humans are seeking comfort from books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences and sure the forums chat chat, THIS IS SHIRK brothers and sisters, no one can deny it, especially those who are challenging God in a very important and serious subject which is life, death and judgment, in a way they escaping from that reality and just want to live on earth as long as possible, another sign of satanic corruption that make human create their own feel good religion..

The Quran aloners say, (Einestien in your example) would have to realize that his present life explains his previous one, and even his future one depending on his actions in the present one..This realization makes the present life easier to live and will push us to do much better, if not to go straight to Heaven, at least for the hope of having a better future life!

But again brothers and sisters, the above said by them never happened neither Einstein suggested that it happened to him.

Forget Einstein for a moment, he is dead and we can't ask him neither we can track the other human where Einstein's soul is residing now (if it is his soul not another one before him), let's think of you and me, we are alive, have your soul existed in another life on earth before this life on earth?

For me, to answer the same question:

A firm NO, because my soul never suggested to me that this is the case neither I remembered/learnt anything from any previous lives, I was born a baby knowing nothing indeed, I guess it is your case also and every human on earth as well, for example how reincarnation fits in the following verse by Allah:

He it is Who created you from dust, then from a small lifegerm, then from a clot, then He brings you forth as a child, then that you may attain your maturity, then that you may be old-- and of you there are some who are caused to die before-- and that you may reach an appointed term, and that you may understand.
[The Quran ; 40:67]

هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَكُم مِّن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ مِن نُّطْفَةٍ ثُمَّ مِنْ عَلَقَةٍ ثُمَّ يُخْرِجُكُمْ طِفْلًا ثُمَّ لِتَبْلُغُوا أَشُدَّكُمْ ثُمَّ لِتَكُونُوا شُيُوخًا وَمِنكُم مَّن يُتَوَفَّى مِن قَبْلُ وَلِتَبْلُغُوا أَجَلًا مُّسَمًّى وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ (67)

-> Clearly we don't need reincarnation to reach maturity, we only need 40 years as stated in another verse.

And when Allah said the following to the prophet and us, how come Allah never mentioned reincarnation between death and resurrection?:

30- Surely you shall die and they (too) shall surely die.

31- Then surely on the day of resurrection you will contend one with another before. your Lord.
[The Quran ; 39:30-31]

إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ وَإِنَّهُم مَّيِّتُونَ (30)
ثُمَّ إِنَّكُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ عِندَ رَبِّكُمْ تَخْتَصِمُونَ (31)

The common knowledge for all humans that every soul dies once, the believers know that they will be resurrected, and the unbelievers know they won't, the Quran told us about this fact by the God rejectors:

35- There is nothing beyond our first death, and we shall not be raised again
[The Quran ; 44:35]

إِنْ هِيَ إِلَّا مَوْتَتُنَا الْأُولَى وَمَا نَحْنُ بِمُنشَرِينَ (35)

Even the unbelievers know that there is no reincarnation as Allah told us above, this is because there was never compelling evidence that proves it other than books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences.

Therefore the common knowledge for humans is we die once, this is in fact not entirely true, as Allah told us that the law is, we die twice and we live twice:

How do you deny Allah and you were dead and He gave you life? Again He will cause you to die and again bring you to life, then you shall be brought back to Him.
[The Quran ; 40:28]

كَيْفَ تَكْفُرُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَكُنتُمْ أَمْوَاتاً فَأَحْيَاكُمْ ثُمَّ يُمِيتُكُمْ ثُمَّ يُحْيِيكُمْ ثُمَّ إِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ (28)

-> The sequence is clear:

1) We were dead (1)
2) We have been given life (1)
3) We will be caused to die again, dead (2)
4) We will be brought back to life again, life (2)
5) And finally, we will be brought back to Him for judgment

There was no mention of reincarnation at all according to the reincarnation definition, even in the first metaphorical death when we never existed then we were given life (1), and because the never existence and existence are two different worlds, it can't be reincarnation, the second death and the second resurrection can't be reincarnation either, because when being brought back to life for the second time there will be no more chances to improve neither we will be brought back in the same world.

This logical fact of two deaths and two lives will be conceded by the very people who denied it while deceiving themselves by thinking that it is a matter of one life and one death only:

They shall say: Our Lord! twice didst Thou make us subject to death, and twice hast Thou given us life, so we do confess our faults; is there then a way to get out?
[The Quran ; 40:11]

قَالُوا رَبَّنَا أَمَتَّنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ وَأَحْيَيْتَنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ فَاعْتَرَفْنَا بِذُنُوبِنَا فَهَلْ إِلَى خُرُوجٍ مِّن سَبِيلٍ (11)


But there is no way out:

: Their wish will be to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out therefrom: their penalty will be one that endures.
[The Quran ; 5:37]

يُرِيدُونَ أَن يَخْرُجُواْ مِنَ النَّارِ وَمَا هُم بِخَارِجِينَ مِنْهَا وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّقِيمٌ (37)


Or there is a way out?:

As to those who are rebellious and wicked, their abode will be the Fire: every time they wish to get away therefrom, they will be forced thereinto, and it will be said to them: "Taste ye the Penalty of the Fire, the which ye were wont to reject as false."
[The Quran ; 32:20]

وَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ فَسَقُوا فَمَأْوَاهُمُ النَّارُ كُلَّمَا أَرَادُوا أَن يَخْرُجُوا مِنْهَا أُعِيدُوا فِيهَا وَقِيلَ لَهُمْ ذُوقُوا عَذَابَ النَّارِ الَّذِي كُنتُم بِهِ تُكَذِّبُونَ (20)

-> See, in hell it will be like a cat a mouse game, they will be allowed to make an escape plan, you know something like the Great Escape, possibly by tunnelling through hell, they will think that they are succeeding then game over, back to hell again, this is very humiliating indeed:'????every time they wish to get away therefrom, they will be forced thereinto, and it will be said to them: '???????????Taste ye the Penalty of the Fire, the which ye were wont to reject as false.''????

The problem for the ones who call themselves Muslims on FM then voted yes for the possibility of this non sense called reincarnation, that they think it is done by the will of Allah, ignoring that He never told us as such and all He told us that we were dead then given life then caused to die then will be resurrected then brought back to Him for justice, this in effect means they are saying and attributing things to Allah that He never said about Himself or His actions, this is a great sin indeed:

(Such) as dispute about the Signs of Allah, without any authority that hath reached them, grievous and odious (is such conduct) in the sight of Allah and of the Believers. Thus doth Allah, seal up every heart - of arrogant and obstinate Transgressors."
[The Quran ; 40:35]

الَّذِينَ يُجَادِلُونَ فِي آيَاتِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ سُلْطَانٍ أَتَاهُمْ كَبُرَ مَقْتًا عِندَ اللَّهِ وَعِندَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كَذَلِكَ يَطْبَعُ اللَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ قَلْبِ مُتَكَبِّرٍ جَبَّارٍ (35)

-> Now, life and death are signs of Allah, and those who dispute what He said about it in the Quran must be included in the above verse, and their action is really bad in the sight of Allah : '???? grievous and odious (is such conduct) in the sight of Allah'????, you can also see that the true submitters to Allah words will be upset as well from those people :'???? and of the Believers.'????

Life and death are signs of Allah because they were created by Allah:

He Who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed: and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving;-
[The Quran ; 67:2]

الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْمَوْتَ وَالْحَيَاةَ لِيَبْلُوَكُمْ أَيُّكُمْ أَحْسَنُ عَمَلًا وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْغَفُورُ (2)

-> We can see that the main purpose of creating life and death is : '???? He may try which of you is best in deed'????, now, trying to fit reincarnation in here, we end up with very serious questions:

1) If it is all about trial, how it works if a soul was good then came back into a murderer?

2) How the souls are distributed equally on the ever increasing number of humans so the trial is fair?, I mean it will not be fair that a soul takes 100 chances and another takes 5.

3) Starting from the beginning, was a specific number of souls are somewhere in a warehouse and as humans number increase, the souls are inserted into it?, but when that insertion stops and just reincarnation starts?

Man, if I keep thinking, I will come up with many of these silly questions, the reason I say silly because it will also be silly to waste time and find answers in the books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences and sure the forums chat chat and leave a divine book with all the answers regarding life and death in it, this book is called the Quran, again this is CLEAR CUT SHIRK

The sequence of death(1) -> life(1) -> death(2) -> life(2) -> judgment was repeated many times in the Quran, here is another example:

16: It was We Who created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein.

17: Behold, two (guardian angels) appointed to learn (his doings) learn (and noted them), one sitting on the right and one on the left.

18: Not a word does he utter but there is a sentinel by him, ready (to note it).

19: And the stupor of death will bring Truth (before his eyes): "This was the thing which thou wast trying to escape!"

20: And the Trumpet shall be blown: that will be the Day whereof Warning (had been given).

21: And there will come forth every soul: with each will be an (angel) to drive, and an (angel) to bear witness.
[The Quran ; 50:16-21]

وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنسَانَ وَنَعْلَمُ مَا تُوَسْوِسُ بِهِ نَفْسُهُ وَنَحْنُ أَقْرَبُ إِلَيْهِ مِنْ حَبْلِ الْوَرِيدِ (16)
إِذْ يَتَلَقَّى الْمُتَلَقِّيَانِ عَنِ الْيَمِينِ وَعَنِ الشِّمَالِ قَعِيدٌ (17)
مَا يَلْفِظُ مِن قَوْلٍ إِلَّا لَدَيْهِ رَقِيبٌ عَتِيدٌ (18)
وَجَاءتْ سَكْرَةُ الْمَوْتِ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكَ مَا كُنتَ مِنْهُ تَحِيدُ (19)
وَنُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ ذَلِكَ يَوْمُ الْوَعِيدِ (20)
وَجَاءتْ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّعَهَا سَائِقٌ وَشَهِيدٌ (21)

-> Verse 50:16, death(1) to life(1)
-> Verses 50:17-18, life(1) being tested
-> Verse 50:19, life1-> death(2)
-> Verse 50:20, death2 -> life(2) (resurrection)
-> Verse 50:21, account and judgment

Again no mention to reincarnation

Another verse with an important note is below:

'???????????One day He will gather them together: (It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day: they will recognise each other: assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance'????
[The Quran ; 10:45]

وَيَوْمَ يَحْشُرُهُمْ كَأَن لَّمْ يَلْبَثُواْ إِلاَّ سَاعَةً مِّنَ النَّهَارِ يَتَعَارَفُونَ بَيْنَهُمْ قَدْ خَسِرَ الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِلِقَاء اللّهِ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهْتَدِينَ (45)

-> The above verse is talking about what will happen when we are resurrected (life2):
1) We will think that we only lasted an hour of a day
2) We will recognise each other

Now, if the souls will be put back to its bodies as the Quran told us when we will be resurrected for judgment, how the same soul will go in many bodies? And how we will recognise each other if many persons have the same soul?, what will happen also if a soul did bad with a human and did great with another human?, how the same soul will be a winner and a loser at the same time?'???? assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance'????, please pay much attention to '???????????refused to receive true guidance'????, i.e. when they were told that this is what the Quran says as its clear Arabic language suggest, they still deny and associate non sense to Allah, those who say we believe in Allah and also declare their belief in reincarnation, are in effect Mushrikoon, because Allah never said that He created incarnation in His Quran, '???????????THE GUIDANCE MENTIONED'????


Say: "The Death from which ye flee will truly overtake you: then will ye be sent back to the Knower of things secret and open: and He will tell you (the truth of) the things that ye did!"
[The Quran ; 62:8]

قُلْ إِنَّ الْمَوْتَ الَّذِي تَفِرُّونَ مِنْهُ فَإِنَّهُ مُلَاقِيكُمْ ثُمَّ تُرَدُّونَ إِلَى عَالِمِ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ (8)

-> 62:8 is telling us about three sequences in the sequence of two lives, two deaths and judgment, in here we read only the sequence of death(2)-> life (2)-> Judgment, '???? The Death from which ye flee will truly overtake you: then will ye be sent back to the Knower of things secret and open: and He will tell you (the truth of) the things that ye did'????, Allah never told us that after death we will be sent again in different bodies to have more chances, why He did that?, because death(2) brings GAME OVER:

10- And spend out of what We have given you before death comes to one of you, so that he should say: My Lord! why didst Thou not respite me to a near term, so that I should have given alms and been of the doers of good deeds?

11- And Allah does not respite a soul when its appointed term has come, and Allah is Aware of what you do.
[The Quran ; 63:10-11]

وَأَنفِقُوا مِن مَّا رَزَقْنَاكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَ أَحَدَكُمُ الْمَوْتُ فَيَقُولَ رَبِّ لَوْلَا أَخَّرْتَنِي إِلَى أَجَلٍ قَرِيبٍ فَأَصَّدَّقَ وَأَكُن مِّنَ الصَّالِحِينَ (10)
وَلَن يُؤَخِّرَ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِذَا جَاء أَجَلُهَا وَاللَّهُ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ (11)

-> See, GAME OVER :'???? And Allah does not respite a soul when its appointed term has come'????

I.e., whatever was done good/bad for his/her own soul IS SEALED AGAINST THAT SOUL:

Whoever works righteousness benefits his own soul; whoever works evil, it is against his own soul: nor is thy Lord ever unjust (in the least) to His Servants.

[The Quran ; 41:46]

مَنْ عَمِلَ صَالِحًا فَلِنَفْسِهِ وَمَنْ أَسَاء فَعَلَيْهَا وَمَا رَبُّكَ بِظَلَّامٍ لِّلْعَبِيدِ (46)

-> See, '???????????HIS OWN SOUL'????, the verse does not incline the slightest that the own soul is shared between many bodies.

Will the souls know, when they die they will be sent back to another body for further chances?, and how about the good souls?, I guess they should not be sent back for further chances because they have passed the test, right?, well, Game Over means if you try to repent when dying, it won't be accepted and if you die and you are a Kafir, there will be no chances given but a promise of the most grievous punishment, prepared especially for those bad guys, no more chances for sure:

Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until death faces one of them, and he says, "Now have I repented indeed;" nor of those who die rejecting Faith: for them have We prepared a punishment most grievous.
[The Quran ; 4:18]

وَلَيْسَتِ التَّوْبَةُ لِلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ السَّيِّئَاتِ حَتَّى إِذَا حَضَرَ أَحَدَهُمُ الْمَوْتُ قَالَ إِنِّي تُبْتُ الآنَ وَلاَ الَّذِينَ يَمُوتُونَ وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ أُوْلَئِكَ أَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا (18)


And we know that there is no change in Allah words, Allah has given us a perfect example of a very bad guy, called '???????????Firon'????, let's see Allah words in action:

'???????????We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam)."
[The Quran ; 10:90]

وَجَاوَزْنَا بِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ الْبَحْرَ فَأَتْبَعَهُمْ فِرْعَوْنُ وَجُنُودُهُ بَغْيًا وَعَدْوًا حَتَّى إِذَا أَدْرَكَهُ الْغَرَقُ قَالَ آمَنتُ أَنَّهُ لا إِلِهَ إِلاَّ الَّذِي آمَنَتْ بِهِ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ وَأَنَاْ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ (90)

-> See, Firon repented at the moment of death :'???? when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam).'????, Firon declared his Islam at the moment of truth '???????????death(2)'????, but was it accepted?

According to 4:18 mentioned earlier, his repentance will never be accepted because it happened at the moment of death and he will only get the bad news at that time:

'???????????(It was said to him): Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)!'????
[The Quran ; 10:91]

آلآنَ وَقَدْ عَصَيْتَ قَبْلُ وَكُنتَ مِنَ الْمُفْسِدِينَ (91)


-> Ironically you will find people calling themselves followers of the Quran alone who promote that possibly Allah forgave Firon, which I have to say of course it may have been a possibility BUT ONLY if Allah didn't tell us that Firon will lead his people to hell and Firon himself will be in the worst of he punishment, what do you say about those Muslims then?, well according to the Quran they are UNBELIEVERS, of course they are, they DON'T BELIEVE WHAT ALLAH TOLD US IN HIS QURAN

They really have to rethink their arrogance and ignorance because :

Muslims who don't believe Allah = Hypocrites

45: Then Allah saved him (Moses) from (every) ill that they plotted (against him), but the burnt of the Penalty encompassed on all sides the People of Pharaoh.

46: In front of the Fire will they be brought, morning and evening: And (the sentence will be) on the Day that Judgment will be established: '???????????Cast ye the People of Pharaoh into the severest Penalty!'
[The Quran ; 2:45-46]

فَوَقَاهُ اللَّهُ سَيِّئَاتِ مَا مَكَرُوا وَحَاقَ بِآلِ فِرْعَوْنَ سُوءُ الْعَذَابِ (45)
النَّارُ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوًّا وَعَشِيًّا وَيَوْمَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ أَدْخِلُوا آلَ فِرْعَوْنَ أَشَدَّ الْعَذَابِ (46)

-> Not just Firon and his followers won't be given more chances to fix their flaws but they will be forced to have the worst of nightmares twice a day and for every day until the judgment day : '???? In front of the Fire will they be brought, morning and evening: And (the sentence will be) on the Day that Judgment will be established:'????, not only Firon alone, but all the bad guys who followed him '????Cast ye the People of Pharaoh into the severest Penalty!'????, why all these souls were not given another chances then?, does Allah discriminate between us regarding reincarnation?, I don't think so because reincarnation simply does not exist, it does not exist because it is flawed and satanic, let's assume that it exists and put Firon to the test of reincarnation:

We want to see how reincarnation actually works in the case of a real person. If we take the case of Firon, the results are shocking, there is no doubt that all reincarnation advocates agree that many lives are needed for consuming his debt. Firon died thousands of years ago and had to reincarnate as a child in order to carry the tough consequences of his very bad deeds.
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The person of Firon ceased to exist at the moment of his physical death (When He drowned as Allah told us), only the impersonal self will reincarnate, accompanied by its karma balance, however, there is no continuity between the person of Firon and that of the anyone who has to carry the hardships imposed by Firon karma, the newborn human doesn't know that he has to work out Firon's karma, other millions of reincarnations will succeed with the same horrible destiny. The most disgusting fact is that the person of Firon, the only one who should have endured at physical and psychical level the results of his bad deeds is dead at his physical death and Allah reserved his dead body for us to see, while other persons totally unaware of this situation and innocent, have to work out his bad karma.

As a result of the hardships that have to be endured by the new incarnations of Firon, it is almost certain that they will react with rebellion instead of submitting to their destiny, Therefore a growing karmic debt will be accumulated over the chain, each new reincarnation of Firon becomes a source of newly acquired karma, initiating a new chain of individuals who have to pay the consequences. The same must happened in the case of Firon himself.

Whoever he was in a previous life, he made his karma a lot worse during the years of his rule. Therefore, instead of solving the puzzle of global justice, the problem worsened. We started with a single individual such as Firon or whoever was before him, we reach a huge number of humans who pay his karma and accumulate a new one, this is just one case of human history recorded in the Quran of a very bad guy. any attempt to imagine what happens at a larger human scale would reveal a disaster that is impossible to ever be solved, but I'm sure all reincarnation advocates ignore this simple fact.

As a result reincarnation cannot provide any kind of justice and sure can't solve the problem of evil but only magnify it, leaving the original evil unpunished, if reincarnation were true, Fir'on will never be punished for his deeds because he ceased to exist and we can see his dead body in the Egyptian museum, therefore no person or circumstance of life could truly punish him, the fact of the matter that people are far from considering themselves puppets paying the balance of someone's else karma because this cannot be a solution for justice, but only a kind of eternal circus.

In conclusion, the concept of reincarnation stands in contradiction with logic, justice, morals and even common sense, looking beyond the comfort it provides to this life by promising further lives in which perfection may be attained, belief in reincarnation cannot bring any beneficial result, but only rebellion and despair in facing a must fate. Why those Muslims accept it as a belief then?, I understand why non Muslims accept it, but it is shocking to see Muslims voting for it on FM while Allah clearly explained life and death in His last message called '???????????Al Quran'???? the book they say they follow alone, the book they claim to uphold alone. Very strange indeed. It is strange because reincarnation will make Allah helpless (Allah forbids) and just a mere spectator of a human tragedy.

Believing in reincarnation may affect our understanding of morality and motivation for moral living. An extreme application of reincarnationist may lead to accepting crimes, theft, lying and other such crimes, because those crimes could be considered nothing else but normal debts to be paid by their unaware victims, accumulated by others in their previous lives.

Reincarnation in its essence MUST BE a religious belief but believing in something that Allah never told us about and yet it suppose to be the work of ONLY Him because He is the one who created life and death from the first place (a clear cut case of Shirk). For those Muslims, let me remind you with the last three events in the sequence of our existence as told to us by the All Just, All Knowledgeable Allah:

19- '???????????And the stupor of death will bring Truth (before his eyes): '???????????This was the thing which thou wast trying to escape!''????
20- '???????????And the Trumpet shall be blown: that will be the Day whereof Warning (had been given).'????

21- '???????????And there will come forth every soul: with each will be an (angel) to drive, and an (angel) to bear witness.'????
22- '???????????(It will be said:) "Thou wast heedless of this; now have We removed thy veil, and sharp is thy sight this Day!"
[The Quran ; 50:19-22]

وَجَاءتْ سَكْرَةُ الْمَوْتِ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكَ مَا كُنتَ مِنْهُ تَحِيدُ (19)
وَنُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ ذَلِكَ يَوْمُ الْوَعِيدِ (20)
وَجَاءتْ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّعَهَا سَائِقٌ وَشَهِيدٌ (21)
لَقَدْ كُنتَ فِي غَفْلَةٍ مِّنْ هَذَا فَكَشَفْنَا عَنكَ غِطَاءكَ فَبَصَرُكَ الْيَوْمَ حَدِيدٌ (22)


-> Verse 19, DEATH(2)
-> Verse 20, LIFE(2) (no incarnation is between the two events)
-> Verse 21, JUDGMENT DAY (one hell of a distressful day)

May Allah save all the believers the horror of that day

Peace be with All

[AhmedBahgat]

Peace All

This is a thread about reincarnation that I discussed with a few Quran aloners, ironically many of them believe that incarnation exists, however if you try to quiz those reincarnation advocates you will find yourself not sure e what they are trying to say here:

Is it:

1) Yes, reincarnation exists by the will of Allah
2) No, it does not by the will of Allah
3) It is possible by the will of Allah
4) Reincarnation = resurrection

The problem here reincarnation means that the soul comes again in a different person in this very life, not in a new life in another place, Here is something from the web:

The concept of reincarnation seems to offer one of the most attractive explanations of man's origin and destiny. There is an increasing interest in this topic today, sustained especially by books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences. Most of them are related to the world of esoterical wisdom and occult phenomena. Reincarnation is a hot topic also on the Internet, as you may have already noticed. Not only adherents of Eastern religions or New Age spirituality accept it currently, but also many who don't share such esoteric interests and convictions.

Reincarnation seems to give hope for continuing one's existence in further lives and thus having a better chance to attain liberation. This is a source of great comfort, especially for those who seek liberation on the exclusive basis of their inner resources. On the other hand, reincarnation is a way of rejecting the Christian teaching of the soul's final judgment by a holy God, with the possible result of being eternally condemned to suffer in hell. Another major reason for accepting reincarnation by so many people today is the fact that it allegedly explains the differences that exist between people. Some are healthy, others are tormented their whole life by physical handicaps. Some are rich, others at the brink of starvation. Some have success without being religious; others are constant losers, despite their religious dedication. Eastern religions explain these differences as a result of previous lives, good or bad, which bear their fruits into the present one through the action of karma. Therefore reincarnation seems to be a perfect way of punishing or rewarding one's deeds, without the need of accepting a personal God as Ultimate Reality.

Many people who accept reincarnation in the West today claim that it can be scientifically proven. They usually ground their belief on so-called past life recall experiences, which represent the ability of certain persons to recall facts of alleged previous lives. There are two categories of this phenomenon. One is observed under hypnosis, while regressing certain persons beyond the date of birth. The other is produced by some children who spontaneously remember a previous life identity, amazing their neighbours with specific details that match with the life of a deceased person. Could these experiences really be proofs for reincarnation?


See the soul must come back in another person in this life not in another life, therefore those who try to mix it with the resurrection are blowing a punctured balloon because of the followings:

1) The soul don't come back in this life but in the hereafter (Resurrection)

2) The soul don't come back to another person but to the same person (Resurrection)

3) The whole earth in the hereafter will disappear and will be replaced by another earth, i.e. totally different planet:

One day the earth will be changed to a different earth, and so will be the heavens, and (men) will be marshalled forth, before Allah, the One, the Irresistible
[The Quran ; 14:48]

يَوْمَ تُبَدَّلُ الأَرْضُ غَيْرَ الأَرْضِ وَالسَّمَاوَاتُ وَبَرَزُواْ للّهِ الْوَاحِدِ الْقَهَّارِ (48)

Therefore, reincarnation advocates should stop sucking at the resurrection because they absolutely have no point to say reincarnation = resurrection, I guess they just trying hard to make it sound more comfortable, I call this make their feelings like They Feel Good, but I know I wouldn't do that

I guess they have been influenced by books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences, never a religious book to use to support their flawed concept, that flawed concept was inspired in our minds by Satan to corrupt us and make us sway from the clear truth told to us in the Quran, the truth according to the Quran that there is no such thing, a few members on FM posted compelling verses that clearly deny it and yet some still insist to follow books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies, conferences and the chat chat on forums.

This concept is nothing but Satan spoiling our attachment to this low life, '???????????Al Hayatu Al Donya'????. From the above we read that reincarnation is a source of great comfort, while the Quran told us:

Those who believe and whose hearts are set at rest by the remembrance of Allah; now surely by Allah's remembrance are the hearts set at rest.
[The Quran ; 13:28]

الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ وَتَطْمَئِنُّ قُلُوبُهُم بِذِكْرِ اللّهِ أَلاَ بِذِكْرِ اللّهِ تَطْمَئِنُّ الْقُلُوبُ (28)

-> See, '???? now surely by Allah's remembrance are the hearts set at rest.'????, not by this bloody flawed satanic concept called reincarnation which is clearly denied in the Quran as we will see later. You can see from the info above how that satanic concept denies God.

My point here is, instead of seeking comfort in the remembrance of Allah through His Quran, humans are seeking comfort from books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences and sure the forums chat chat, THIS IS SHIRK brothers and sisters, no one can deny it, especially those who are challenging God in a very important and serious subject which is life, death and judgment, in a way they escaping from that reality and just want to live on earth as long as possible, another sign of satanic corruption that make human create their own feel good religion..

The Quran aloners say, (Einestien in your example) would have to realize that his present life explains his previous one, and even his future one depending on his actions in the present one..This realization makes the present life easier to live and will push us to do much better, if not to go straight to Heaven, at least for the hope of having a better future life!

But again brothers and sisters, the above said by them never happened neither Einstein suggested that it happened to him.

Forget Einstein for a moment, he is dead and we can't ask him neither we can track the other human where Einstein's soul is residing now (if it is his soul not another one before him), let's think of you and me, we are alive, have your soul existed in another life on earth before this life on earth?

For me, to answer the same question:

A firm NO, because my soul never suggested to me that this is the case neither I remembered/learnt anything from any previous lives, I was born a baby knowing nothing indeed, I guess it is your case also and every human on earth as well, for example how reincarnation fits in the following verse by Allah:

He it is Who created you from dust, then from a small lifegerm, then from a clot, then He brings you forth as a child, then that you may attain your maturity, then that you may be old-- and of you there are some who are caused to die before-- and that you may reach an appointed term, and that you may understand.
[The Quran ; 40:67]

هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَكُم مِّن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ مِن نُّطْفَةٍ ثُمَّ مِنْ عَلَقَةٍ ثُمَّ يُخْرِجُكُمْ طِفْلًا ثُمَّ لِتَبْلُغُوا أَشُدَّكُمْ ثُمَّ لِتَكُونُوا شُيُوخًا وَمِنكُم مَّن يُتَوَفَّى مِن قَبْلُ وَلِتَبْلُغُوا أَجَلًا مُّسَمًّى وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ (67)

-> Clearly we don't need reincarnation to reach maturity, we only need 40 years as stated in another verse.

And when Allah said the following to the prophet and us, how come Allah never mentioned reincarnation between death and resurrection?:

30- Surely you shall die and they (too) shall surely die.

31- Then surely on the day of resurrection you will contend one with another before. your Lord.
[The Quran ; 39:30-31]

إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ وَإِنَّهُم مَّيِّتُونَ (30)
ثُمَّ إِنَّكُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ عِندَ رَبِّكُمْ تَخْتَصِمُونَ (31)

The common knowledge for all humans that every soul dies once, the believers know that they will be resurrected, and the unbelievers know they won't, the Quran told us about this fact by the God rejectors:

35- There is nothing beyond our first death, and we shall not be raised again
[The Quran ; 44:35]

إِنْ هِيَ إِلَّا مَوْتَتُنَا الْأُولَى وَمَا نَحْنُ بِمُنشَرِينَ (35)

Even the unbelievers know that there is no reincarnation as Allah told us above, this is because there was never compelling evidence that proves it other than books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences.

Therefore the common knowledge for humans is we die once, this is in fact not entirely true, as Allah told us that the law is, we die twice and we live twice:

How do you deny Allah and you were dead and He gave you life? Again He will cause you to die and again bring you to life, then you shall be brought back to Him.
[The Quran ; 40:28]

كَيْفَ تَكْفُرُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَكُنتُمْ أَمْوَاتاً فَأَحْيَاكُمْ ثُمَّ يُمِيتُكُمْ ثُمَّ يُحْيِيكُمْ ثُمَّ إِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ (28)

-> The sequence is clear:

1) We were dead (1)
2) We have been given life (1)
3) We will be caused to die again, dead (2)
4) We will be brought back to life again, life (2)
5) And finally, we will be brought back to Him for judgment

There was no mention of reincarnation at all according to the reincarnation definition, even in the first metaphorical death when we never existed then we were given life (1), and because the never existence and existence are two different worlds, it can't be reincarnation, the second death and the second resurrection can't be reincarnation either, because when being brought back to life for the second time there will be no more chances to improve neither we will be brought back in the same world.

This logical fact of two deaths and two lives will be conceded by the very people who denied it while deceiving themselves by thinking that it is a matter of one life and one death only:

They shall say: Our Lord! twice didst Thou make us subject to death, and twice hast Thou given us life, so we do confess our faults; is there then a way to get out?
[The Quran ; 40:11]

قَالُوا رَبَّنَا أَمَتَّنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ وَأَحْيَيْتَنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ فَاعْتَرَفْنَا بِذُنُوبِنَا فَهَلْ إِلَى خُرُوجٍ مِّن سَبِيلٍ (11)


But there is no way out:

: Their wish will be to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out therefrom: their penalty will be one that endures.
[The Quran ; 5:37]

يُرِيدُونَ أَن يَخْرُجُواْ مِنَ النَّارِ وَمَا هُم بِخَارِجِينَ مِنْهَا وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّقِيمٌ (37)


Or there is a way out?:

As to those who are rebellious and wicked, their abode will be the Fire: every time they wish to get away therefrom, they will be forced thereinto, and it will be said to them: "Taste ye the Penalty of the Fire, the which ye were wont to reject as false."
[The Quran ; 32:20]

وَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ فَسَقُوا فَمَأْوَاهُمُ النَّارُ كُلَّمَا أَرَادُوا أَن يَخْرُجُوا مِنْهَا أُعِيدُوا فِيهَا وَقِيلَ لَهُمْ ذُوقُوا عَذَابَ النَّارِ الَّذِي كُنتُم بِهِ تُكَذِّبُونَ (20)

-> See, in hell it will be like a cat a mouse game, they will be allowed to make an escape plan, you know something like the Great Escape, possibly by tunnelling through hell, they will think that they are succeeding then game over, back to hell again, this is very humiliating indeed:'????every time they wish to get away therefrom, they will be forced thereinto, and it will be said to them: '???????????Taste ye the Penalty of the Fire, the which ye were wont to reject as false.''????

The problem for the ones who call themselves Muslims on FM then voted yes for the possibility of this non sense called reincarnation, that they think it is done by the will of Allah, ignoring that He never told us as such and all He told us that we were dead then given life then caused to die then will be resurrected then brought back to Him for justice, this in effect means they are saying and attributing things to Allah that He never said about Himself or His actions, this is a great sin indeed:

(Such) as dispute about the Signs of Allah, without any authority that hath reached them, grievous and odious (is such conduct) in the sight of Allah and of the Believers. Thus doth Allah, seal up every heart - of arrogant and obstinate Transgressors."
[The Quran ; 40:35]

الَّذِينَ يُجَادِلُونَ فِي آيَاتِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ سُلْطَانٍ أَتَاهُمْ كَبُرَ مَقْتًا عِندَ اللَّهِ وَعِندَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كَذَلِكَ يَطْبَعُ اللَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ قَلْبِ مُتَكَبِّرٍ جَبَّارٍ (35)

-> Now, life and death are signs of Allah, and those who dispute what He said about it in the Quran must be included in the above verse, and their action is really bad in the sight of Allah : '???? grievous and odious (is such conduct) in the sight of Allah'????, you can also see that the true submitters to Allah words will be upset as well from those people :'???? and of the Believers.'????

Life and death are signs of Allah because they were created by Allah:

He Who created Death and Life, that He may try which of you is best in deed: and He is the Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving;-
[The Quran ; 67:2]

الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْمَوْتَ وَالْحَيَاةَ لِيَبْلُوَكُمْ أَيُّكُمْ أَحْسَنُ عَمَلًا وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْغَفُورُ (2)

-> We can see that the main purpose of creating life and death is : '???? He may try which of you is best in deed'????, now, trying to fit reincarnation in here, we end up with very serious questions:

1) If it is all about trial, how it works if a soul was good then came back into a murderer?

2) How the souls are distributed equally on the ever increasing number of humans so the trial is fair?, I mean it will not be fair that a soul takes 100 chances and another takes 5.

3) Starting from the beginning, was a specific number of souls are somewhere in a warehouse and as humans number increase, the souls are inserted into it?, but when that insertion stops and just reincarnation starts?

Man, if I keep thinking, I will come up with many of these silly questions, the reason I say silly because it will also be silly to waste time and find answers in the books, magazines, TV broadcasts, movies and conferences and sure the forums chat chat and leave a divine book with all the answers regarding life and death in it, this book is called the Quran, again this is CLEAR CUT SHIRK

The sequence of death(1) -> life(1) -> death(2) -> life(2) -> judgment was repeated many times in the Quran, here is another example:

16: It was We Who created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein.

17: Behold, two (guardian angels) appointed to learn (his doings) learn (and noted them), one sitting on the right and one on the left.

18: Not a word does he utter but there is a sentinel by him, ready (to note it).

19: And the stupor of death will bring Truth (before his eyes): "This was the thing which thou wast trying to escape!"

20: And the Trumpet shall be blown: that will be the Day whereof Warning (had been given).

21: And there will come forth every soul: with each will be an (angel) to drive, and an (angel) to bear witness.
[The Quran ; 50:16-21]

وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنسَانَ وَنَعْلَمُ مَا تُوَسْوِسُ بِهِ نَفْسُهُ وَنَحْنُ أَقْرَبُ إِلَيْهِ مِنْ حَبْلِ الْوَرِيدِ (16)
إِذْ يَتَلَقَّى الْمُتَلَقِّيَانِ عَنِ الْيَمِينِ وَعَنِ الشِّمَالِ قَعِيدٌ (17)
مَا يَلْفِظُ مِن قَوْلٍ إِلَّا لَدَيْهِ رَقِيبٌ عَتِيدٌ (18)
وَجَاءتْ سَكْرَةُ الْمَوْتِ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكَ مَا كُنتَ مِنْهُ تَحِيدُ (19)
وَنُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ ذَلِكَ يَوْمُ الْوَعِيدِ (20)
وَجَاءتْ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّعَهَا سَائِقٌ وَشَهِيدٌ (21)

-> Verse 50:16, death(1) to life(1)
-> Verses 50:17-18, life(1) being tested
-> Verse 50:19, life1-> death(2)
-> Verse 50:20, death2 -> life(2) (resurrection)
-> Verse 50:21, account and judgment

Again no mention to reincarnation

Another verse with an important note is below:

'???????????One day He will gather them together: (It will be) as if they had tarried but an hour of a day: they will recognise each other: assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance'????
[The Quran ; 10:45]

وَيَوْمَ يَحْشُرُهُمْ كَأَن لَّمْ يَلْبَثُواْ إِلاَّ سَاعَةً مِّنَ النَّهَارِ يَتَعَارَفُونَ بَيْنَهُمْ قَدْ خَسِرَ الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِلِقَاء اللّهِ وَمَا كَانُواْ مُهْتَدِينَ (45)

-> The above verse is talking about what will happen when we are resurrected (life2):
1) We will think that we only lasted an hour of a day
2) We will recognise each other

Now, if the souls will be put back to its bodies as the Quran told us when we will be resurrected for judgment, how the same soul will go in many bodies? And how we will recognise each other if many persons have the same soul?, what will happen also if a soul did bad with a human and did great with another human?, how the same soul will be a winner and a loser at the same time?'???? assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah and refused to receive true guidance'????, please pay much attention to '???????????refused to receive true guidance'????, i.e. when they were told that this is what the Quran says as its clear Arabic language suggest, they still deny and associate non sense to Allah, those who say we believe in Allah and also declare their belief in reincarnation, are in effect Mushrikoon, because Allah never said that He created incarnation in His Quran, '???????????THE GUIDANCE MENTIONED'????


Say: "The Death from which ye flee will truly overtake you: then will ye be sent back to the Knower of things secret and open: and He will tell you (the truth of) the things that ye did!"
[The Quran ; 62:8]

قُلْ إِنَّ الْمَوْتَ الَّذِي تَفِرُّونَ مِنْهُ فَإِنَّهُ مُلَاقِيكُمْ ثُمَّ تُرَدُّونَ إِلَى عَالِمِ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ (8)

-> 62:8 is telling us about three sequences in the sequence of two lives, two deaths and judgment, in here we read only the sequence of death(2)-> life (2)-> Judgment, '???? The Death from which ye flee will truly overtake you: then will ye be sent back to the Knower of things secret and open: and He will tell you (the truth of) the things that ye did'????, Allah never told us that after death we will be sent again in different bodies to have more chances, why He did that?, because death(2) brings GAME OVER:

10- And spend out of what We have given you before death comes to one of you, so that he should say: My Lord! why didst Thou not respite me to a near term, so that I should have given alms and been of the doers of good deeds?

11- And Allah does not respite a soul when its appointed term has come, and Allah is Aware of what you do.
[The Quran ; 63:10-11]

وَأَنفِقُوا مِن مَّا رَزَقْنَاكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَ أَحَدَكُمُ الْمَوْتُ فَيَقُولَ رَبِّ لَوْلَا أَخَّرْتَنِي إِلَى أَجَلٍ قَرِيبٍ فَأَصَّدَّقَ وَأَكُن مِّنَ الصَّالِحِينَ (10)
وَلَن يُؤَخِّرَ اللَّهُ نَفْسًا إِذَا جَاء أَجَلُهَا وَاللَّهُ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ (11)

-> See, GAME OVER :'???? And Allah does not respite a soul when its appointed term has come'????

I.e., whatever was done good/bad for his/her own soul IS SEALED AGAINST THAT SOUL:

Whoever works righteousness benefits his own soul; whoever works evil, it is against his own soul: nor is thy Lord ever unjust (in the least) to His Servants.

[The Quran ; 41:46]

مَنْ عَمِلَ صَالِحًا فَلِنَفْسِهِ وَمَنْ أَسَاء فَعَلَيْهَا وَمَا رَبُّكَ بِظَلَّامٍ لِّلْعَبِيدِ (46)

-> See, '???????????HIS OWN SOUL'????, the verse does not incline the slightest that the own soul is shared between many bodies.

Will the souls know, when they die they will be sent back to another body for further chances?, and how about the good souls?, I guess they should not be sent back for further chances because they have passed the test, right?, well, Game Over means if you try to repent when dying, it won't be accepted and if you die and you are a Kafir, there will be no chances given but a promise of the most grievous punishment, prepared especially for those bad guys, no more chances for sure:

Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until death faces one of them, and he says, "Now have I repented indeed;" nor of those who die rejecting Faith: for them have We prepared a punishment most grievous.
[The Quran ; 4:18]

وَلَيْسَتِ التَّوْبَةُ لِلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ السَّيِّئَاتِ حَتَّى إِذَا حَضَرَ أَحَدَهُمُ الْمَوْتُ قَالَ إِنِّي تُبْتُ الآنَ وَلاَ الَّذِينَ يَمُوتُونَ وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ أُوْلَئِكَ أَعْتَدْنَا لَهُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا (18)


And we know that there is no change in Allah words, Allah has given us a perfect example of a very bad guy, called '???????????Firon'????, let's see Allah words in action:

'???????????We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam)."
[The Quran ; 10:90]

وَجَاوَزْنَا بِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ الْبَحْرَ فَأَتْبَعَهُمْ فِرْعَوْنُ وَجُنُودُهُ بَغْيًا وَعَدْوًا حَتَّى إِذَا أَدْرَكَهُ الْغَرَقُ قَالَ آمَنتُ أَنَّهُ لا إِلِهَ إِلاَّ الَّذِي آمَنَتْ بِهِ بَنُو إِسْرَائِيلَ وَأَنَاْ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ (90)

-> See, Firon repented at the moment of death :'???? when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam).'????, Firon declared his Islam at the moment of truth '???????????death(2)'????, but was it accepted?

According to 4:18 mentioned earlier, his repentance will never be accepted because it happened at the moment of death and he will only get the bad news at that time:

'???????????(It was said to him): Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)!'????
[The Quran ; 10:91]

آلآنَ وَقَدْ عَصَيْتَ قَبْلُ وَكُنتَ مِنَ الْمُفْسِدِينَ (91)


-> Ironically you will find people calling themselves followers of the Quran alone who promote that possibly Allah forgave Firon, which I have to say of course it may have been a possibility BUT ONLY if Allah didn't tell us that Firon will lead his people to hell and Firon himself will be in the worst of he punishment, what do you say about those Muslims then?, well according to the Quran they are UNBELIEVERS, of course they are, they DON'T BELIEVE WHAT ALLAH TOLD US IN HIS QURAN

They really have to rethink their arrogance and ignorance because :

Muslims who don't believe Allah = Hypocrites

45: Then Allah saved him (Moses) from (every) ill that they plotted (against him), but the burnt of the Penalty encompassed on all sides the People of Pharaoh.

46: In front of the Fire will they be brought, morning and evening: And (the sentence will be) on the Day that Judgment will be established: '???????????Cast ye the People of Pharaoh into the severest Penalty!'
[The Quran ; 2:45-46]

فَوَقَاهُ اللَّهُ سَيِّئَاتِ مَا مَكَرُوا وَحَاقَ بِآلِ فِرْعَوْنَ سُوءُ الْعَذَابِ (45)
النَّارُ يُعْرَضُونَ عَلَيْهَا غُدُوًّا وَعَشِيًّا وَيَوْمَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ أَدْخِلُوا آلَ فِرْعَوْنَ أَشَدَّ الْعَذَابِ (46)

-> Not just Firon and his followers won't be given more chances to fix their flaws but they will be forced to have the worst of nightmares twice a day and for every day until the judgment day : '???? In front of the Fire will they be brought, morning and evening: And (the sentence will be) on the Day that Judgment will be established:'????, not only Firon alone, but all the bad guys who followed him '????Cast ye the People of Pharaoh into the severest Penalty!'????, why all these souls were not given another chances then?, does Allah discriminate between us regarding reincarnation?, I don't think so because reincarnation simply does not exist, it does not exist because it is flawed and satanic, let's assume that it exists and put Firon to the test of reincarnation:

We want to see how reincarnation actually works in the case of a real person. If we take the case of Firon, the results are shocking, there is no doubt that all reincarnation advocates agree that many lives are needed for consuming his debt. Firon died thousands of years ago and had to reincarnate as a child in order to carry the tough consequences of his very bad deeds.
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The person of Firon ceased to exist at the moment of his physical death (When He drowned as Allah told us), only the impersonal self will reincarnate, accompanied by its karma balance, however, there is no continuity between the person of Firon and that of the anyone who has to carry the hardships imposed by Firon karma, the newborn human doesn't know that he has to work out Firon's karma, other millions of reincarnations will succeed with the same horrible destiny. The most disgusting fact is that the person of Firon, the only one who should have endured at physical and psychical level the results of his bad deeds is dead at his physical death and Allah reserved his dead body for us to see, while other persons totally unaware of this situation and innocent, have to work out his bad karma.

As a result of the hardships that have to be endured by the new incarnations of Firon, it is almost certain that they will react with rebellion instead of submitting to their destiny, Therefore a growing karmic debt will be accumulated over the chain, each new reincarnation of Firon becomes a source of newly acquired karma, initiating a new chain of individuals who have to pay the consequences. The same must happened in the case of Firon himself.

Whoever he was in a previous life, he made his karma a lot worse during the years of his rule. Therefore, instead of solving the puzzle of global justice, the problem worsened. We started with a single individual such as Firon or whoever was before him, we reach a huge number of humans who pay his karma and accumulate a new one, this is just one case of human history recorded in the Quran of a very bad guy. any attempt to imagine what happens at a larger human scale would reveal a disaster that is impossible to ever be solved, but I'm sure all reincarnation advocates ignore this simple fact.

As a result reincarnation cannot provide any kind of justice and sure can't solve the problem of evil but only magnify it, leaving the original evil unpunished, if reincarnation were true, Fir'on will never be punished for his deeds because he ceased to exist and we can see his dead body in the Egyptian museum, therefore no person or circumstance of life could truly punish him, the fact of the matter that people are far from considering themselves puppets paying the balance of someone's else karma because this cannot be a solution for justice, but only a kind of eternal circus.

In conclusion, the concept of reincarnation stands in contradiction with logic, justice, morals and even common sense, looking beyond the comfort it provides to this life by promising further lives in which perfection may be attained, belief in reincarnation cannot bring any beneficial result, but only rebellion and despair in facing a must fate. Why those Muslims accept it as a belief then?, I understand why non Muslims accept it, but it is shocking to see Muslims voting for it on FM while Allah clearly explained life and death in His last message called '???????????Al Quran'???? the book they say they follow alone, the book they claim to uphold alone. Very strange indeed. It is strange because reincarnation will make Allah helpless (Allah forbids) and just a mere spectator of a human tragedy.

Believing in reincarnation may affect our understanding of morality and motivation for moral living. An extreme application of reincarnationist may lead to accepting crimes, theft, lying and other such crimes, because those crimes could be considered nothing else but normal debts to be paid by their unaware victims, accumulated by others in their previous lives.

Reincarnation in its essence MUST BE a religious belief but believing in something that Allah never told us about and yet it suppose to be the work of ONLY Him because He is the one who created life and death from the first place (a clear cut case of Shirk). For those Muslims, let me remind you with the last three events in the sequence of our existence as told to us by the All Just, All Knowledgeable Allah:

19- '???????????And the stupor of death will bring Truth (before his eyes): '???????????This was the thing which thou wast trying to escape!''????
20- '???????????And the Trumpet shall be blown: that will be the Day whereof Warning (had been given).'????

21- '???????????And there will come forth every soul: with each will be an (angel) to drive, and an (angel) to bear witness.'????
22- '???????????(It will be said:) "Thou wast heedless of this; now have We removed thy veil, and sharp is thy sight this Day!"
[The Quran ; 50:19-22]

وَجَاءتْ سَكْرَةُ الْمَوْتِ بِالْحَقِّ ذَلِكَ مَا كُنتَ مِنْهُ تَحِيدُ (19)
وَنُفِخَ فِي الصُّورِ ذَلِكَ يَوْمُ الْوَعِيدِ (20)
وَجَاءتْ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّعَهَا سَائِقٌ وَشَهِيدٌ (21)
لَقَدْ كُنتَ فِي غَفْلَةٍ مِّنْ هَذَا فَكَشَفْنَا عَنكَ غِطَاءكَ فَبَصَرُكَ الْيَوْمَ حَدِيدٌ (22)


-> Verse 19, DEATH(2)
-> Verse 20, LIFE(2) (no incarnation is between the two events)
-> Verse 21, JUDGMENT DAY (one hell of a distressful day)

May Allah save all the believers the horror of that day

Peace be with All