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ali (1st shiite imam) describes the god-fearing:

....During the day, they are enduring, learned, virtuous and God-fearing. Fear (of Allah) has made them thin like arrows. If any one looks at them, he believes they are sick, although they are not sick, and he says that they have gone mad.....

source: http://smma59.wordpress.com/2006/08/31/the-qualities-of-the-shia/
(tradition #35)




an anecdote concerning muhammad albaqir(5th shiite imam)

The branches of the palms were not oscillating under any breeze and the trees were as weary men sleep-strucken while standing. The camels were sheltering themselves under some shade of the palm branches, exceeding the wall of gardens and were ruminating silently and motionlessly. In the town every being was crawling under a shade and nobody was seen in the palm gardens of the round about, except a rather nice man having a slightly corpulent body which was leaning on the shoulders of a young man, (perhaps his son), who was visiting his farm. He was perspiring from the heat.

His eyes, which were half-closed because of the violent shining of the sun, were so attractive that they recalled the looking of the most beautiful gazelle. His nice feature was adorned with a pretty beard and mustache. But this handsome face was turning to purple under the sun and the drops of perspiration were pouring from his cheeks, like the drops of dew from a wild tulip. They were running from his face and dropping into his chest.

At this moment another man was seen on the plain, which was advancing towards this point. His name was Mohammad Ibn Monkader. He was supposing himself to be a pious and anchorite, a hermit man far from Mormonism. He had a bowed down stature and a weary face. When he reached the fat man who was perspiring under the glow of the sun, busy to supervise his farm, he wondered and said to himself: "See how the greed of the mammon blinds the eyes of wisdom. This man is melting like a candle under the sun. And he is not ready to stop to hurt himself for his avidity. It is better to go to him and to advise him. Perhaps he will be guided."

When he came near, he knew the man and said: "Oh it's strange. This man is Mohammad Ibn Ali, Imam Bagher, and the leader of the Shia faith. Why this man is trying for worldly wealth?"

He goes then nearer, stood and greeted the Imam. Imam Mohammad Bagher (Peace Be Upon Him), was busy with his work and was perspiring and panting. He replied to his greeting. The man halted a while and said: "Is it worthy for a great and pious man like you to come out of home in this hour of the day, to seek worldly wealth? And with this rather fat body you have to bear, of course, more pain."

"If in this moment, (God forbids), your death comes, in what situation are you going to meet God? No, it is not worthy for you, with this heat and this natural disposition, to be so concerned with mammon."

The Imam cleaned the perspiration off his forehead with the back of his hand, stopped the work and looked at him.

"If my death in this very moment", said the Imam, "I will meet God in a state of worship." You think that the worship is only to pray and to do religious ceremonies? I am living in the world and I have to earn my livelihood. If I do not work I will need the help of some men like you and I have to stretch my hands for begging. I should fear the coming of my death when I am sinning and disobeying my God. At this moment, when I am, working under the order of God, I am trying not to be a weight on the shoulders of my fellow-beings.

Ibn Monkader, struck with shame, said nothing and continued his way, while he was humming with himself: "Wonderful. I was thinking that I can advise him, but this was myself to earn an advice."


source and more interesting anecdotes at: http://www.ezsoftech.com/stories/imambaqir1.asp





# note how ali describes the god-fearing:

During the day, they are enduring, learned, virtuous and God-fearing. Fear (of Allah) has made them thin like arrows. If any one looks at them, he believes they are sick, although they are not sick, and he says that they have gone mad

## now take a look at the 5th imam, muhammad albaqir:

....except a rather nice man having a slightly corpulent body....

When he reached the fat man who was perspiring under the glow of the sun....

And with this rather fat body you have to bear, of course, more pain."

### a look at the "pretender", muhammad ibn munkader:

He had a bowed down stature and a weary face.

# soooooooo.....what does this mean?

the "pretender's" features quite fit the description given by ali!

...ofcourse, there's another tradition which says that being thin and bowed is to no avail unless 1 is pious and keeps away from the unlawful!




The Holy Prophet (SAW) has said:
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804. “Know that if you perform prayer so much so that you are bent as a bow and observe fast so that you are thin as a rake, it will not avail you unless you are pious and keep away from what is unlawful.”


source: http://www.duas.org/od/chap7.htm




....but v have no reason to believe that the guy who was "struck with shame" was impious or partaker of unlawful!

...however, the description of the 5th imam in nowise tallies with the god-fearing as described by ali!

# so did ali not give a correct description of the god-fearing? or are there exceptions to the description? and what an exception it would be....1 of the most god-fearing!

or has baqir been described incorrectly in that anecdote? perhaps, it has been forged?
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